Help me find a new home

[VisceralReaction]

And Austin? And New Orleans? And...

Bingo!

[Bick]

So if California is so great why do you all keep moving to Idaho? hmmmmmmmm?

I have asked the same thing of Texans living here when they go on and on about how much better Texas is.

[Timmy Tucker]

I'm coming to Knoxville on the 22nd for a concert 

TSO or O.A.R.?

[Timmy Tucker]

Lived here since 1986. It's grown a lot, but you can still find country living within 30 miles, or pick up a decent house in a decent neighborhood in the city for @ $250K. You can even be a trendy asshole and buy a loft in Ghent and walk to all the trendy restaurants to meet your trendy friends. Of course, in that case, the pitbull and the shoulder harness would be frowned upon.

I may have told this before (my memory is shite), but that's where I'm originally from. Lived all over Tidewater (mostly Hampton and Newport News) till I was 5. All of dad's family is still there, so I've been visiting there all my life. I even worked there every few weeks back in '03 when I had a management job. Also, there's a road in Hampton named after my family (Brogden LN).

[SheMonster]

Arizona meets all of your requirements you listed except for your work.  It is a "right to work" state, which means most construction/carpentry jobs are filled by unskilled people who are willing to work for not very much money and are usually "day laborers" (read into that whatever you want, you are probably correct).  Unions have no strength here.

[corey]

respect da burgh.


It's got everything you want, and some things you dont.
But if you like the urban lifestyle, with a cheap price tag, and don't mind more rainy/gray days a year than Seattle... Then you're in for a treat.

EDIT: Forgot to mention the air quality. Recently rated worst in the nation, just above L.A. (although i still think the testing was skewed).

PA is relatively forgiving when it comes to driving/riding offenses though. Only state cops are allowed to use radar guns. Local authorities have to use other methods like lidar and enradd. you can get away with alot here. and more often than not get out of it when you DO get busted.

[Speedomax]

+1 for Pittsburgh, housing market is stable, lots of music venues and bands pass through all the time. plus you can still travel back to your home town to visit friends.

[Triple J]

The Pacific Northwest is nice. Both Portland and Seattle meet your needs except for cost of living. Lots of construction here (maybe more in Seattle???)...you will likely get paid more which may balanace out the cost factor. 

[NvrSummer]

Arizona meets all of your requirements you listed except for your work.  It is a "right to work" state, which means most construction/carpentry jobs are filled by unskilled people who are willing to work for not very much money and are usually "day laborers" (read into that whatever you want, you are probably correct).  Unions have no strength here.

I wouldn't worry about this too much.  I'm in construction in CO, also right to work, and our carpenters get paid very very well.  There is a lot of unskilled labor as well, but they don't make carpenters wages. 

Colorado is full though, sorry.  Try again later.

[Timmy Tucker]

Colorado is full though, sorry.  Try again later.

[B.Rock]

Moscow Idaho is great for everything but the music scene. Idaho has nearly nothing when it comes to gun restrictions.

So if California is so great why do you all keep moving to Idaho? hmmmmmmmm?

There are 40M people in CA. A small % of them makes a big dent in a state that, if it were a county in CA, would be the 8th most populus.

Whoever said Phoenix - Phoenix is probably my personal least favorite metropolis I've been to. Strip malls and housing tracts and everything's centered around air conditioning.

[metallimonster]

^^^^^ +1

I agree I lived in Phoenix for a year and while it was a great time there really isn't that much there and everything starts to blend together.  Cyrus disagrees but I still say Columbus has everything you're looking for.  Especially the music scene. 

[Autostrada Pilot]

Arizona meets all of your requirements you listed except for your work.  It is a "right to work" state, which means most construction/carpentry jobs are filled by unskilled people who are willing to work for not very much money and are usually "day laborers" (read into that whatever you want, you are probably correct).  Unions have no strength here.

Are you maybe referring to the 9% of the population that is illegal?

+1 for Phoenix area.  I think you'll like it there.  Lots of building, lots of music, hot as hell, 350 days of sunshine a year.

[Mother]

I live in oregon

I think you should move to Seattle, WA

Every jackass on here is going to invite you to the state they live in, fyi.

[r_ciao]

California is great if you can afford to live here.  Probably higher wages here, but less disposable income b/c of housing costs.