Dragged my foot today!

Started by monstermania, April 05, 2009, 04:49:20 PM

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DLSGAP

if the suspension is set properly, then no the pegs shouldnt drag... when you start dragging hard parts it can and eventually will upset the suspension and cause a loss of traction. again.. i can't speak for a 696, but i've dragged bodywork on bikes before without the pegs hitting
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Spidey

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Quote from: txduc on April 07, 2009, 02:49:46 PM
So you're saying that no matter how fast you're travelling or how tight the turn is, you should never have the bike leaned over enough to touch down a stock peg on a Monster? 

Yes, that's what I was saying.   [roll]

Basically, if you're dragging foot or peg, you're either (a) doing it wrong or (b) are on a track or should be on a track.  Based on vw151 pics, he was both on a track and doing it wrong.  There's nothing wrong with "doin' it wrong" cuz we all need to learn somehow.  Like he said, he's working on it.   The point I was making was that dragging foot or peg should not be an everyday occurrence and is not something that should be treated lightly.  The only time I can remember dragging a toe is while shifting leaned over.  And you definitely should not be wearing all the way through a boot.  Eek!
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txduc

Okay I agree with that.  My point was based on track riding.  On the street you should not drag pegs or toes unless you have your foot under the shift lever and arch on the peg.

vw151

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I was working on keeping my feet off the ground all day and I can tell you, the way I was running there was no keeping that peg off the ground,  the monster stock rear sets are awfully low.  That coupled with my spring still being a little soft and no matter what my foots position it was hitting.  I will agree, when I got further off the bike it kept my foot off the ground until my knee was firmly planted and coming back up towards the bike and much like spidey said there was one point where I dragged a peg so hard I felt the rear come unsettled.  I decided that was enough lean angle.  I agree, if all is correct, set up, and you are hanging off the bike, even on a monster, probably shouldn't tear through a boot.  I had 1 particularly bad session where I got a little frazzled and don't think I was paying as much attention to the fundamentals and that is when I did the most damage to the boot.  Actually had a blister on my foot from 1 more touch down in the final session.  hole in slider, hole in boot, hole in sock and blister on foot.  Hense, back to the drawing board for rear sets, rear shock and of course as everyone has been screaming,  more emphasis on getting off the bike. 

This is what happened to my buddy a few weeks ago at barber when he was hauling ass through a turn and didn't wasn't getting off the bike.  It was his first track weekend.  He has vowed to get off the bike next time.  :) 



don't worry, he was fine, but I think he was shaken.  He ran out of tire due to not getting off the bike,  if you don't get your weight off the bike then the only thing turning you is lean angle and you run out of that pretty quick when you are going fast. 

On the superbikes I've never dragged a foot. 

Futher yes, don't try dragging things on the street.  If you are dragging feet, knees or hard parts of the bike on the street slow down a little. 

Raux

if i remember right, one of the things of the 696 is the lower foot position as compared to previous monsters. but the 1100 is taller and gives a bit more lean angle. i would think if you crank up the rear spring to increase the ride height a bit and stiffen up the rear suspension, plus hang off you would never be able to touch on the street unless you are really bombing down a curvy road.

Holden

Quote from: vw151 on April 07, 2009, 07:01:00 PMIf you are dragging feet, knees or hard parts of the bike on the street slow down a little. 

I've seen people dragging knees at pretty low speeds. Is this just bad form for the road? or are they in fact going pretty fast for such tight corners?

DLSGAP

you dont have to be going fast to drag knees... i've done it on the street plenty of times. not nearly as much around Dallas as up at Deals Gap, but it can be done without excessive speed. Its not recommended for the street but it can be done. too many variables... road surfaces, debris, cars, horse crap, dogs, etc etc etc... i prefer sticking to the track. infact i've ridden more than twice the miles on the track this year so far that i have on the street. I'm all but done with street riding... too many idiots out there
Damien
'07 Kawi ZX-10R Candy Plasma Blue
Draggin Knees since 1988