Real Outlaws

[Evil_Ductator]

Funny, I just saw a commercial for the one about the undercover cop who busted up one of the gangs which I'd already seen, and mentioned to my gf that I was surprised I never see guys with real colors out on the streets.  Guess I just don't look that hard, as I live in southern CA and there's obviously a lot of 1%'ers around here.   Hell they just busted a bunch of dudes in Newport Beach of all places a few months back, got tons of weapons/drugs/money/etc.  I guess they had a hangout  there but I don't remember the name of the bar, nor the club they belonged to, but it had to do with some fight where a guy got killed with a pool ball bounced off his skull a few times, iirc.

New a guy when I lived in the midwest though, who was older, and ran with a bunch of 1% crowd, though I don't think he ever wore colors.   He was a guy who could walk into a bar and be in a fight in 10 minutes without saying a word.  Not the type I tend to associate with.

[Mother]

our local flavor calls themselves the Gypsy Jokers, they are currently trying to strong arm the Veterans MC out of existence here do to the 3 piece patch deal. regardless of their charity front I cannot respect them. It is not right to try an bully Vets.

[supakpow2]

yup.  agree.   unless you are of the wrong race.  or religion.  or sexual preference.   amazing how helpfull and down to earth and friendly some people are until you challenge their core beliefs when they turn into the harshest most dangerous criminals out there.   

the 1%ers I've known would both do anything in the world for me, and also kill my gay brother, both without blinking.

no thanks.

I'll go on without the help.

+1     Well said.  I grew up with hard core hooligans that would act like they were your best friends until you looked at them wrong and then it was a trip to the hospital. Loved to make people scared of them. Lived for it. They tend to have the wrong idea of what loyalty and respect are. Loyalty is all that warm squishy stuff they like to put out there until you make that smaaaall mistake. Respect is the fear you are supposed to show gained at the end of a gun, knife, ball bat or their fists as their friends hold you down. Oh, I forgot to mention bullying and outnumbering you while you walk down the street. That there is real respect.
As some here have said, there are probably some nice guys out there but why would decent, respectable, law abiding people want to be associated with people who are known to be the exact opposite (drugs, gambling, extortion, murder, kidnapping, sex slavery, weapons dealing, prostitution, did I miss anything?) of that? (i'm talking about the hard core gangs here, not your local MC) It's not cool. No matter what you say. All my HD riding friends (which is most of my motorcycling friends) and other biker friends are great people that would also give you the shirt off their back (and have) but not think about putting a knife in it when you tell them that their bike sucks...... or anything else that will set them off. Sorry if that sounds harsh but, I can't get behind anyone or anything that puts the image out there that crime, violence and intimidation are ok. just my 2cents

KP

[sbrguy]

if you are a criminal,  and intimidate, promote violence and commit violent acts, then you deserve to rot in jail the rest of your life.

if members of motorcycle clubs do the above they deserve to never see the light of day again in jail, i don't care how much "charity rides" they do.

[B.Rock]

I run into them periodically, between Oakland, SF and Richmond. Only FHE was with a prospect who was a complete drunken idiot and threatened to go "around" with me. Also, he was a racist piece of trash.

[Porsche Monkey]

Never had that many problems down here in San Antonio.  We do have our share of Banditos but they will usually leave you alone.  There was one time that I thought I was in deep shit.  That was a few years ago on my way back from a dove hunting trip in my Jeep.  I had three Banditos catch up to me rather quickly on a deserted Texas back road.  I wasnt driving very fast and just enjoying the scenery when I saw them coming up behind me.  The thing is I didn't have the top on my Jeep and I had three rifle cases stacked in the back in plain view.  Its kinda hard to hide things in a Jeep.  They followed me for about 5 miles and I'm thinking they were gonna try to jack my guns.  I thought about going for my pistol just in case, but it was in a bag under the rifle cases and unloaded with the ammo in a seperate bag.  Then finally one by one they passed me and waved.  I had to pull seat out of my crack after that. 

[Kilgore Trout]

Here is something that happend to me.  Ready?  A long time ago when I was a just a wee lad, I rode a Honda CL 125 (or was it a SL 175 ? )  Whatever, I had a job where I would commute down the  101 Ventura Fwy and a whole bunch of other freeways including the Holleywood and SanFernando and short cuts through Grifith Park.  This was all at after school during grid lock and tight traffic.   It was the 70s ,, it was a good  life.

   This showed a strong work ethic considering I was employed by SafteyCleen to dump and refill solvent barrels.  Risking my life and all.      Well whatever.

One day on the way home. Im splitting lanes ,just  this side of the 405 ? .  So Im riding along and BAM right behind me ,,with the rear brake locked was one of two  1% riders. The other was in the other Lane split lane to my right.  (3 lanes for cars, )   These gies were huge and nothen but hair and ink and loud pipes.

  Well when The gie behind me was inches from my tire, and thinking he was going to pass me while we were spliting the lanes,, I got on the Honda as hard as I could .    We were going along at a good piss my pants speed.  I saw a truck ahead.   I hoped like shit he was at idle and had some space ahad of him.  As luck woud have it, I burned in ,right in front of him  ,,with locked rear tire.  The Panhead blasted by giving me the finger.
Looking back on this,  I know I could only pull this off turning left, into the fast lane.

No doubt the gies had a good headfull as it was at least 6:00 PM.  Just having fun.

  So here is where you can call Bullshit and go to the next post,,,or read on for the hard to belive stuff.



So your still here.       OK.

Like one year later, Ive got my new to me Norton 750.  Every sunday morning I would do a bit of wrenching and blast out Mulholland to the Rock Store.  There never was all that big of a crowd there before 1:00 back then.
And I see the gies bike.  It had a Yen/Yang thing on the back bar.  red and black.  I would bet 100 dollars it was the gies bike.   Any way ,the old vampires were watching me as I pulled in and parked.  Gave me the nod for the Norton .  Now these dogs had no use for the Kaw KZ 750 and all the rest of the metric 4cyl. Otr anything metric for that matter.   So if you had Brit crap you were OK. Sort of.     So to end this part of the story  ,, As it was,I was under age and got one of the gies to give me a beer.    As it turns out the world was small then also.   

  There is more , but you would never belive it.


Kilgore Trout.       

 

[Old-Duckman]

  There is more , but you would never belive it.


Kilgore Trout.       

 

Kilgore, you got me laughin' ! Your writing style reminds me of a crazy friend of mine, he was a helicopter door gunner in Nam...A wild guy with great stories...

Please continue !

[Old-Duckman]

Funny, I just saw a commercial for the one about the undercover cop who busted up one of the gangs which I'd already seen

I actually watched that one last night !

The guy was an ATF agent and became a full patch member of the Mongols.

I found a couple things that he said to be very interesting. One was at the beginning of the show where he said that the Mongols had more love for their fellow club members than he had seen in any military of law enforcement establishment that he had ever belonged to.

The second was near the end of the show. He knew that these guys truly loved him (he related an event after his mother passed away that proved that to him). He said that he knew that what he had done (ratted out his "brothers") was the right thing to do for the ATF and for the people of California but, it wasn't the right thing to do for himself.

I think that his efforts helped put 54 guys behind bars, one for murder. Most of the other offenses were gun and drug related offenses. I know that he was "just doing his job" But I had more respect for the outlaws than a guy who would become part of this group, obviously care deeply for many of these people and then...rat them out ! You could tell that part of him regretted what he had done. In a way it seemed to ruin his life to some extent.

All of our actions have consequences, the outlaws and the ATF agent just suffered  different forms of them.

BTW, thanx for the stories so far...very interesting !