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Started by ducatiz, March 24, 2009, 07:35:01 AM

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ducpainter

#15
March 25, 2009, 06:39:38 AM
living...

if done for a long enough period...

will kill you.
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herm

#16
March 25, 2009, 09:34:14 AM
Quote from: Bun-bun on March 25, 2009, 06:05:01 AM
I am absolutely joking!
And yes, I do know that society couldn't function without lawyers of all types.
Just couldn't resist the opportunity for a ziing.








And, you gotta admit, your job is less strenuous than building bridges, or fighting fires.

and guess who is to fault for that.... [thumbsup]
If you drive the nicest car in the neighborhood, work in a cash business, and don't pay taxes, you're either a preacher or a drug dealer...

Bun-bun

#17
March 25, 2009, 09:51:38 AM
Quote from: ducatizzzz on March 25, 2009, 06:31:40 AM
in college, i did construction and demolition for summer jobs.  i've often wanted to go back to that....
It's not too late, young skywalker. Deny the darkness in you, come back to the light! ;D
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ducatiz

#18
March 25, 2009, 10:34:07 AM
Quote from: herm on March 25, 2009, 09:34:14 AM
and guess who is to fault for that.... [thumbsup]

the writers of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, I would say -- creating a nation of laws means you need lawyers.
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ducatiz

#19
March 25, 2009, 10:34:30 AM
Quote from: Bun-bun on March 25, 2009, 09:51:38 AM
It's not too late, young skywalker. Deny the darkness in you, come back to the light! ;D

can't make the quid, esp in this market!
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"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

ducpainter

#20
March 25, 2009, 01:45:16 PM
Quote from: ducatizzzz on March 25, 2009, 10:34:30 AM
can't make the quid, esp in this market!
so...

it's really just about the money? [evil]
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


herm

#21
March 25, 2009, 02:15:46 PM
Quote from: ducatizzzz on March 25, 2009, 10:34:07 AM
the writers of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, I would say -- creating a nation of laws means you need lawyers.

no, if you want to take that line, go further back (magna carta, or even Hammurabi)
our "society" has only been propping up the profession for a little more than 200 years
If you drive the nicest car in the neighborhood, work in a cash business, and don't pay taxes, you're either a preacher or a drug dealer...

ducatiz

#22
March 25, 2009, 06:01:48 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on March 25, 2009, 01:45:16 PM
so...

it's really just about the money? [evil]

well, now its about my kid's college fund and our retirement, so yes, a big part of it is money vs pleasure..

Quote from: herm on March 25, 2009, 02:15:46 PM
no, if you want to take that line, go further back (magna carta, or even Hammurabi)
our "society" has only been propping up the profession for a little more than 200 years

excellent point, but those documents have nothing to do with American law, except as an interesting historical counterpoint.  Try using the Code of Hammurabi as an authority in a lawsuit and see where it gets you... (however, it might score you points in SCOTUS)
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"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

hbliam

#23
March 25, 2009, 06:07:00 PM
Quote from: ducatizzzz on March 25, 2009, 06:01:48 PM
excellent point, but those documents have nothing to do with American law, except as an interesting historical counterpoint.  Try using the Code of Hammurabi as an authority in a lawsuit and see where it gets you... (however, it might score you points in SCOTUS)

Granted you can't cite them in US Court these days but do they really have "nothing to do with" American law or our "society"?

ducatiz

#24
March 25, 2009, 06:11:34 PM
Quote from: hbliam on March 25, 2009, 06:07:00 PM
Granted you can't cite them in US Court these days but do they really have "nothing to do with" American law or our "society"?

Of course they had some impact on how our founding documents were crafted, but do you really think they impact the cost of a doughnut & coffee at the local Dunkin' Doughnuts?

No, they don't.  The Code of Hammurabi was specific to legal procedure and the status of the monarchy, the Magna Carta laid out the powers of Parliament and the ruling class vis a vis the monarchy.  Our legal system doesn't have a monarchy and the ABA's model rules of legal procedure are pretty much universal, so you don't get much play on the historic shit except at the water cooler.

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"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

hbliam

#25
March 25, 2009, 06:13:59 PM
Quote from: ducatizzzz on March 25, 2009, 06:11:34 PM
Of course they had some impact on how our founding documents were crafted, but do you really think they impact the cost of a doughnut & coffee at the local Dunkin' Doughnuts?

No, they don't.  The Code of Hammurabi was specific to legal procedure and the status of the monarchy, the Magna Carta laid out the powers of Parliament and the ruling class vis a vis the monarchy.  Our legal system doesn't have a monarchy and the ABA's model rules of legal procedure are pretty much universal, so you don't get much play on the historic shit except at the water cooler.



That (the bold) was what I was getting at. 

ducatiz

#26
March 25, 2009, 06:16:40 PM
Quote from: hbliam on March 25, 2009, 06:13:59 PM
That (the bold) was what I was getting at. 

congrats, you got at it!!   [thumbsup]  [thumbsup]  [thumbsup]

fortunately, our founding fathers did not go to public school!
Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

herm

#27
March 25, 2009, 06:46:22 PM
Quote from: hbliam on March 25, 2009, 06:07:00 PM
Granted you can't cite them in US Court these days but do they really have "nothing to do with" American law or our "society"?

thank you.

Quote from: ducatizzzz on March 25, 2009, 06:11:34 PM
Of course they had some impact on how our founding documents were crafted .....snipped banal minutia



thank you councilor, no further questions

Quote from: ducatizzzz on March 25, 2009, 06:16:40 PM
congrats, you got at it!!   [thumbsup]  [thumbsup]  [thumbsup]

fortunately, our founding fathers did not go to public school!

what does where the founding fathers went to school have to do with anything, let alone a thread about sunken treasure of the coast of portugal
If you drive the nicest car in the neighborhood, work in a cash business, and don't pay taxes, you're either a preacher or a drug dealer...
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