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Started by Jarvicious, January 06, 2009, 03:07:35 PM

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ducatiz

#45
January 12, 2009, 11:14:18 AM Last Edit: January 12, 2009, 11:16:59 AM by ducatizzzz
Quote from: Rameses on January 12, 2009, 10:34:34 AM


What about an M1 Garand?

:P

rofl

technically, the M1 has an internal magazine but it is definitely a clip holding the rounds.

Quote from: Jarvicious on January 12, 2009, 09:21:32 AM


I don't doubt that it saps some of the projectile energy, but what kind of effect do you honestly think even 100 (unlikely loss of power) would have on the gun's effectiveness?  Even if it's running, say, 800 fps (not likely given the barrel's length) shouldn't that be close to as effective as a +P round?  How much difference would 200 fps make?  I'm not being argumentative here (mostly  ;D), just looking for one of you folks with some gun exp. to lend some educated responses.  I have a feeling though that even if we determined the ports are counter productive, I still would have bought the same gun  :).  I'm a trained designer that thinks more like an engineer so the never ending battle of form vs. function is pretty constant in my mind, but form won this one.

For typical 115 gr projectiles, a 9mm round will have a muzzle velocity of about 1100-1200 fps with a 4" barrel.

I have seen ported barrels bleed off as much as 25% of the muzzle velocity from a roudn, but it depends on the barrel (i.e. a 4" barrel with 2" of porting is worse off than an 8" barrel with 1" of porting)

For a 9mm, that drops its terminal performance to around the level of a stock .380 (9mm short), which is usually a 98 gr projectile with 1000 fps at the muzzle.

Also, I would say that your experience of recoil is more due to your relative newness to shooting rather than the gun itself.  Most issues with recoil are due ot the shooter, not the gun -- meaning once you are more experienced with grip and stance, you will not have recoil issues- - that is the main reason I tell ppl to start shooting with a 22 -- no matter what.  You learn bad habits if you start "big".

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Jarvicious

#46
January 12, 2009, 11:43:06 AM
I did reserve judgment on the recoil issue until I had a couple of other people shoot my gun, and they both agreed that though the results were very minimal, it made a difference.  Then again, maybe we were all taking placebo pills  ;).  I had a quick lesson with the guy running the range last week and he said my grip is pretty solid.  I'm pulling right hard on all my shots so I'm gonna have to modify it a little, but I'm plenty stable.  I finally got the vid off of my girlfriend's camera and noticed my head snaps a little on the first shot, but everything else looks ultramega ok.  Then again, what do I know  ;D



BTW, did you ever pick up a new backup sidearm hbliam, or are you going to hold off in search of those mags?
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ducatiz

#47
January 12, 2009, 06:20:55 PM
Quote from: Jarvicious on January 12, 2009, 11:43:06 AM
I did reserve judgment on the recoil issue until I had a couple of other people shoot my gun, and they both agreed that though the results were very minimal, it made a difference.  Then again, maybe we were all taking placebo pills  ;).  I had a quick lesson with the guy running the range last week and he said my grip is pretty solid.  I'm pulling right hard on all my shots so I'm gonna have to modify it a little, but I'm plenty stable.  I finally got the vid off of my girlfriend's camera and noticed my head snaps a little on the first shot, but everything else looks ultramega ok.  Then again, what do I know  ;D

it looks like your upper body is leaning back, you should be leaning forward, knees slightly bent.  think of a football crouch but not as far down.  you want your center mass to be low and forward.

shooting is easy but getting good at it takes a lot of practice, patience and paper (to log your performance and the rounds you are firing).

if you are pulling right (shooting right handed) you might be flinching.  you'd have to do some bench shooting to figure if it is the gun or you.
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"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

NAKID

#48
April 13, 2009, 08:07:59 PM
Jarvicious, how's the gun been the last few months? Looking to pick one up...
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ducrider45

#49
April 14, 2009, 07:16:56 PM
Quote from: NAKID on January 10, 2009, 10:55:30 PM
I was thinking it would take some of the power away from the round but couldn't think of an upside...
If you get it right, you can slow the projectile down enough that it will not go through a person; thus creating maximum damage by transferring all of the energy of the projectile to the target.
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Got Duc

#50
April 14, 2009, 07:27:21 PM
Weaver stance?

Try shooting isosceles. It might feel weird at first but you should shoot better.
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mitt

#51
April 14, 2009, 08:14:16 PM
Thought I would share my new addition



Can't find any ammo around here to try it out though  :-[

mitt

ducatiz

#52
April 14, 2009, 08:16:24 PM
Quote from: mitt on April 14, 2009, 08:14:16 PM
Thought I would share my new addition

Can't find any ammo around here to try it out though  :-[

mitt

where are you??
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"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

mitt

#53
April 14, 2009, 08:20:04 PM
Quote from: ducatizzzz on April 14, 2009, 08:16:24 PM
where are you??

Iowa.  I have checked out our Walmart, Theisens (like a Farm and Fleet), and Gander Mountain.  I need to swing by a gun store near my work and check it out.

The only box of 9x19 I found last week was $60 hollow points  :o

mitt
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