Stopping mid flight.....

Started by White Lion, April 24, 2009, 02:22:27 PM

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White Lion

Guys, i've done a search for this and can't seem to find a solution. (Posted on the Oz page as well)

Anyway, i've been having some starting problems over the last four months. Only rarely though. Then about three months ago it started stopping on me mid-flight, as in cruising along southern cross drive when the engine just dies. The dash was still lit up, and the headlight still worked, but it was like someone hit the kill switch. I'd push the starter button while still rolling and away i went.

Had it serviced about three weeks ago, they couldn't find anything, and quite frankly they tuned it so well that it is like a new bike  Grin

About a week ago it took me a minute to start it, happened again a few days ago. Then, two days ago, stopped on me five times on the way home(One being under hard acceleration, changing lanes, which almost threw me off the thing!)  There's no pattern to it: It has stopped on idle at the traffic lights, slowing down, going faster......

Oh yeah, i noticed yesterday while trying to find the problem that i can't always hear the fuel pump 'activate' when i start it up. Started it three times in a minute and i only heard the fuel pump on two of those occasions.

Fuel pump relay maybe??
Battery??
ECU???


Need help....

minnesotamonster

Helps if ya tell us what bike you're riding  :)
2004 S4R
1998 Honda F3 (Track)
2001 M600 (Now the Wife's)

White Lion

Oh, sorry about that. I cut and pasted it from my Oz posting. A lot of the guys there know what i have  :P

05' S2R 1000  [bang]

corndog67

My bike was doing the same shit, I thought it was the fuel pump wiring again, but it was the neutral safety/kickstand switch was starting to short out.   It happened on a Kawasaki I had about 20 years ago, and I forgot all about  it.  NOW I remember.  It's worth checking.  Someone had installed some sort of aftermarket override switch that started going away. 

Keld

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Quote from: White Lion on April 24, 2009, 02:22:27 PM
Fuel pump relay maybe??
Battery??
ECU???

Add side stand switch to the list (Shit someone was faster  than me  :-[ [thumbsup]

White Lion

Hmm, so i take it you're talking about the connection point that is at the top of the kick stand and not the half way point??  What, just take it off, have a look?

erkishhorde

Quote from: White Lion on April 24, 2009, 03:03:53 PM
Hmm, so i take it you're talking about the connection point that is at the top of the kick stand and not the half way point??  What, just take it off, have a look?

Yeah, if it's not a wiring problem it could be as simple as chain gunk making the button stick.
ErkZ NOT in SLO w/ his '95 m900!
The end is in sight! Gotta buckle down and get to work!

White Lion

Chain gunk is very interesting. There's a fare amount in there. May go hit it with the degreaser  ;D

Bun-bun

+1 on the neutral safety switch.
Also, do NOT keep your Duc key on the same ring as another key with a chip(Which is all of them these days). Ask me how I know. ;D
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White Lion

(Copied from the Oz Monster Page, sorry lazy.....)

Possible fix guys.

Spoke to george at Flywheels, Again, he said it sounded like a fuel relay problem(He told me that last week, but i wanted to check all connections first)

Well, i went and grabbed a replacement($17). Plugged it in. Pressed start, and what did it do? Started first go, no delay. Did it again, started.

Put the old plug back in: Firstly didn't hear the fuel pump work(Unlike the first two times), then it just chugged along without starting. Tried it again, same result; no fire.

Plugged the new piece back in, started first pop. could be the goods.

I did notice that the points on the old plug were a little brown.....

moto     Will let you know how it's goes after the commute tomorrow