Sliding the rocker arm over to get to the closers

[He Man]

on a DS1000... i cant get both my rockers to slide over. the cam is in the way (very obvious in the way). is there a special trick to doing this on the DS1000?

[Spidey]

Turn the engine (yes, off of TDC) while pushing on the rocker until it slides over.  Or did I not understand your question?

[He Man]

you understood it, but i cant slide it over. i can only side one rocker over at a time. the cam is directly in the way (about 3mm) so i cant just slide it over. i have the belts off. If i take off one rocker, and try to remove the other rocker, no matter what i do, the cam is in the way, and the other rocker is hitting the closer. if i push it all the way across the slider bar it sits on, the cam acuates it and pushes it into the closer. ive sat there trying to figure out it out, and im at a complete lost.

[Spidey]

Are you just trying to change out closers or take off the rocker arms?

[He Man]

just trying to take out the closers. i could just do one at a time and just slide it back in place, but im just trying to figure out why i cant get both rockers to slide over at once.

[Spidey]

You don't need to move the lower rocker.  Can you get to this point?

[Spidey]

Edit:  Wait a sec.  Are you asking why you can't get the opening rockers from both the intake side and the exhaust to slide over at the same time?

[scott_araujo]

Move the engine to TDC and take the belt off.  Then just rotate the cam as you slide the rocker over.  You can do the same by rotating the engine but just turning the cam is much easier and with the piston at TDC you can't drop a valve into the cylinder.

Scott

[brad black]

remove the cam end plate and pull the opening rocker arm pins out.  the rockers fall out and there you have it.  losing the shims always tops off the job nicely too i find.

i think they sort of forgot what they were trying to achieve when doing this on the ds motor, there's no way you can get both arms across and rotate the cams like all other 2v motors.

t's actually fairly easy - the end cap has an o-ring on it and the pins come out pretty easily from memory, don't think i've had to use the slide hammer, but i could be wrong.  putting the cam end cap back on i think has a very (very) small effect on the closing clearance, but that could just be my paranoia talking.

just be careful when you put the cap back in with the o-ring going into the head.  nick it and it'll leak.  guaranteed.

but believe me, it's worth doing to make th ejob easier.  like dealing with an st series fairing, you just accept that's what you need to do and get on with it.

[Armor]

Just do one at a time!

[He Man]

Edit:  Wait a sec.  Are you asking why you can't get the opening rockers from both the intake side and the exhaust to slide over at the same time?

Bingo! I can get to the pic..., i can do the closers one at a time. but i thought you should be able to slide both over and rote the cam to cehck for binding. you cant do this for the DS1000's apparently.

i think they sort of forgot what they were trying to achieve when doing this on the ds motor, there's no way you can get both arms across and rotate the cams like all other 2v motors.

Well im glad im not crazy! because theres no way in hell i can magically move a piece of metal through another piece of metal!