Detriot doesnt have food????

[Grampa]

there is no solution.

some people are just born with a case of the dumb.

those people flock together and they mate.

no schooling fixes it.

it's the way of the world.... the way it's always been.


back in the day...... (when nature ran it's course), they died off early, but now'a days...the man keeps them going with price breaks on rent, medical, food and even gives them cash for clunkers.

[ducatiz]

there is no solution.

some people are just born with a case of the dumb.

those people flock together and they mate.

no schooling fixes it.

it's the way of the world.... the way it's always been.


back in the day...... (when nature ran it's course), they died off early, but now'a days...the man keeps them going with price breaks on rent, medical, food and even gives them cash for clunkers.

not always true, the dumb ones who could run fast got away from the lions. 

[Grampa]

not always true, the dumb ones who could run fast got away from the lions. 

only to be drafted by the Raiders

[ducatiz]

only to be drafted by the Raiders

perhaps, but it means some dumb ones survived and thrived...

[Grampa]

perhaps, but it means some dumb ones survived and thrived...

tiz true..... parasites area part of nature.

[Pakhan]

tiz true..... parasites area part of nature.

Some parts of nature we can do without 

[ducatiz]

tiz true..... parasites area part of nature.

i'd prefer to think of it as nature's way of giving us running backs.  far more pleasant view of life.

[Grampa]

i'd prefer to think of it as nature's way of giving us running backs.  far more pleasant view of life.

I'm OJ, and I approved this message

[rgramjet]

amen to that

back home, grunt construction jobs were always taken by college age kids of all kinds (when i was growing up)... not the skilled stuff but the unskilled stuff.  at some point, the college kids started refusing to do that work, never mind it was $25/hour (and this was the 80s).

for that reason, and I do not criticize them for it, hispanics moved in, mostly from Mexico and started taking the crap jobs.  now, my home town has 4 spanish radio stations and there are tons of spanish businesses (restaurants, law firms, etc).  All the latino workers took the $25/hr jobs, said "this is make the beast with two backsing great" and put their kids in college and are moving up.

Very true!  Growing up, I worked construction every Summer and Winter break with my dad .  A lot of his more affluent clients would ask my dad to hire their sons for Summer work.....not to learn the trade but to see what its like to sweat up on a hot roof all day or frame a house in 100 degree heat.  Very inspiring, all went to University and got advanced degrees.  I shoulda learnt!

A lot of the Hispanics that rake in the $25 an hour send a ton of money back to their country.  Ive seen pics of my painter and my framers houses in Colombia and Honduras respectively, and theyve got some pimpy cribs!  Ones in Tela Beach right on the water!

[ducatiz]

Very true!  Growing up, I worked construction every Summer and Winter break with my dad .  A lot of his more affluent clients would ask my dad to hire their sons for Summer work.....not to learn the trade but to see what its like to sweat up on a hot roof all day or frame a house in 100 degree heat.  Very inspiring, all went to University and got advanced degrees.  I shoulda learnt

my dad had the same attitude, but i had already learned it was good by college, i did construction and demolition my first two summers in college-- by year 3, i was traveling too much, but i still did a little when i was home.  the money was too good, and the owner bought everyone lunch.  i socked it all away.  by the time i finished undergrad, between the work and my scholarships, i came out with a profit...

[Drunken Monkey]

Cyrus's Solution:

1. Bring back neighborhood schools
2. Require parents to walk children <10 to school or drive them
3. Replace teachers with Sociologists.
4. Teach said children what it is like to be a respectful person
5. Require parents to sign off on kids homework
6. Smoke another J because my idea is so far fetched, but legit.

That's exactly what they've done at some "turnaround" schools for poor kids:

Full school year. Classes from 8-6 with a full homework load. You screw up, you're out. You don't do the work, you're out. You don't respect your teacher, or your classmates, you're out.

Basically, if you all but take over the raising of kids you can turn poor kids, with a 'poor' mindset, into middle class adults, with a 'middle-class' mindset. But it takes a huge amount of effort to overcome parenting that doesn't prep a kid for success.

Read "Outliers" if you want a full break-down of what I'm talking about.

It's a good read that makes strong case for how much success has to do with some of the most random shit imaginable (Birthday. Background.) and not what you'd normally think (IQ. Education.)

[Drunken Monkey]

And....

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