Fuel pump issue

Started by brecchi, August 18, 2009, 09:54:22 AM

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brecchi

So, when I go to turn on the bike (01 Monster 900) this morning the familiar sound of the fuel pump turning on is non-existent. Sure enough, the bike won't fire up. I have the feeling it's something easy to fix. I had a starting issue last week and it turned out to be a little corrosion on the starter connection which just needed to be cleaned.

Bones

does everything else power up (needles sweep)?

if nothing literally happens when you press on the start button, I would check fuses, connection, starter solenoid first.
I'm a loner, Dottie...a rebel...

brecchi

Everything else powers up. the starter turns over fine but won't fire up

erkishhorde

01 FI m900? I can't remember which year they switched.
ErkZ NOT in SLO w/ his '95 m900!
The end is in sight! Gotta buckle down and get to work!

brecchi


2001cromo

make sure the plug under the tank is securely connected as that does both the fuel light and the pump. If yes, to that, check the fuse.

brecchi

Plug is nice and clean, fuse is good. noticed that the wire from the tank goes into what i am told is the starter solenoid. Another wire on the same little harness goes from the starter solenoid to the starter button. It was the starter I was having trouble with last week. Nothing when I hit the starter but I could hear the fuel pump coming on. Cleaned out the connection to the solenoid and it worked for a few days but now the situation is reversed. Starter works fine but the fuel pump is not turning on and the bike won't fire up (obviously). I hope this is a stupid little problem that I can fix myself fairly quickly. It sucks not being able to ride, Im having to take the suck-ass, expensive train to school an hour earlier every morning.

Howie

Are you getting voltage to the fuel pump?  I believe it is the brown/white wire. If you have voltage, the problem is the pump or the wiring to the pump from the low fuel light sensor.  If not, go to the fuel pump relay, remove it and jump terminal 87 (brown/white wire) to terminal 30 (red/blue wire).   With the key on, if the pump no runs, the relay is at fault or the relay is not being triggered.  The relay is triggered by terminal 85 (purple/black wire) and terminal 86  (brown wire).  The fuel pump is enabled through the computer.

brecchi

thanks howie. ill try to get hold of a multimeter and try out what you wrote. ill post here when i find out

fivetwo

Brecchi did you figure out what the problem was. My bike is doing the same thing


ridingrabbit

i had the same prblm ( i have a 07 695m), turns out it was the wiring into the tank (the wires were not soldered correctly and were lose, I removed (carefully) the protective epoxy that the wires were encased in; on the fuel tank side (pretty easy cause it was falling apart) cleaned up the wires re soldered em and re encased em in a epoxy capable of withstanding fuel,and presto!! spent about 60 bucks for the epoxy and replacement parts. (beats 1200 for a new fuel pump) if anything its worth a look.i couldnt tell the wires were loose until i got rid of all the epoxy/protective case the wires were in. good luck

gilamonster06

I had the same problem with my 2006 S2R1000.  The hot wire to the fuel pump had a bad solder joint at the electrical feedthrough inside the gas tank.  I had to diagnose the problem myself (Thanks ridingrabbit for the tip) because the local shop tried replacing the fuel pump, and that didn't solve the problem.  I dug out the solder joint with an exacto knife, resoldered the wire, and sealed it up with JB Weld.  The bike is running like new.  Hooray!  I had to ride my dirtbike/car to work the past three months.
2006 Monster S2R1000, 2004 Honda XR400R
"I am a Cafe racer myself, on some days---and many nights for that matter---and it is one of my finest addictions..."  --Hunter S. Thompson

ridingrabbit

no problem-o :) btw I still have a lot of that epoxy (2 stage) left over from my fix just sitting in my garage. anyone who's doing a similar repair let me know ill sell it for a few bucks or a 12 pack of beer!!! [beer]