Seafoam foul up? Flooded? Newbie in trouble?

Started by StrikeJollyRoger, September 11, 2011, 02:57:34 PM

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Howie


StrikeJollyRoger

Quote from: howie on September 12, 2011, 02:18:55 PM
You need plugs.  NGK, DCPR8E, PN NG4339
Awesome, thanks.  Cancelled my delivery order for the OEMs and they had the NGKs in stock.

Was in the process of posting when you replied.  I'll put a couple charts I found here for anyone like me who stumbles across this.

Chart 1
Chart 2





StrikeJollyRoger

I think I was an idiot again.  I need confirmation.

When attempting to install the spark plugs, the plugs that came out seemed to be relieved of their terminals.  I looked into the plug cap and saw what I believed to be the separated terminal.  I tried for a while to dig one out with a pair of needle nose pliers.

When it was too dark to keep working I came in and searched the net some more.  It seems that the terminals on spark plugs are removable?  I simply unscrew the terminal off the plug, screw the plug into the chamber and stick the plug cap on sans terminal.... and some terminal like piece of metal inside the cap fits over the now bare threads under where the plug terminal had been? 

I'm assuming this means I've been damaging the plug cap trying to rip something out that should be in and now need to buy a replacement?    [bang]

wth...why are they doing it this way? ???

Contrasting pictures at bottom of this thread relevant

Also, does anyone know what size allen key I need for the oil drain plug on a '98 M750?  I don't have anything big enough and I'd like to know what to buy.  The parts manual doesn't give sizes and the parts guys at the dealership apparently don't know.  Seems to be no good resource for bolt/screw sizes.

This learning curve is appearing steep.  Glad I'm underway. 

ducpainter

The allen wrench size is 10mm. Make sure you tap the wrench all the way in or you'll strip the hex.

They do it that way so they achieve a better connection. You can buy replacement caps...someone will be by with a source.
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Dellikose

Quote from: StrikeJollyRoger on September 12, 2011, 10:59:50 PM
I think I was an idiot again.  I need confirmation.

Haha, I did the same thing, except I just kept trying to jam the cap on to the terminal thinking that it was a tight fit.

I looked at the old plugs and thought I lost the terminal in the cap, but it wasn't in there. I gave the plug a little twist...viola! I felt pretty stupid. ;D
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StrikeJollyRoger

Quote from: duck soup on September 13, 2011, 03:19:30 AM
The allen wrench size is 10mm. Make sure you tap the wrench all the way in or you'll strip the hex.

... someone will be by with a source.

Thanks for the specs and the little pieces of advice.  They're invaluable.

A source would be great too.  Dealer wants $11 and doesn't have em in stock anyway.  My guess is 'no', but is that a price fair?

A cheaper source on a tank latch would be great too.  Dealer wants $17.


Quote from: Dellikose on September 13, 2011, 04:23:24 AM
Haha, I did the same thing

But good for you for figuring it out before bungling it further.

Although it's even sorta funny right now, I can only hope in a few years I can reread all my beginner tech threads and laugh at myself.   ...and hopefully reflect that they didn't end up costing me too much money.  :P

Engine rebuild skills, here I come!

akmnstr

QuoteA source would be great too.  Dealer wants $11 and doesn't have em in stock anyway.  My guess is 'no', but is that a price fair?

A cheaper source on a tank latch would be great too.  Dealer wants $17.

Your local Sears should have the 10mm allen wrench you need or you could check with other tool sources.  You could check ebay for your tank latch or check the parts for sale board here on the DMF.  $17 for the latch doesn't sound that bad.  I had to buy one when I got my first monster.  The real problem was how long it took.  Ordering it online could be faster.  Check our sponsors for the sale of OEM parts.
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StrikeJollyRoger

Thanks for the recommendations.  [thumbsup]

I grabbed the tools from sears and after spending more time than I wanted to searching the net for elusive parts, I copped out and grabbed it all from the dealer.  :P  Est. 5 - 7 day shipping.

I'll keep the other 3 sources in mind for next time though.  I think I'm just trying to get the bike operational as fast as I can at this point.

A local member reached out to offer some help too which was great so it's possible I'll be posting less about all the stuff I trash on my bike during the rest of this series of work I have planned.    :D

ducpainter

Quote from: StrikeJollyRoger on September 14, 2011, 08:33:43 PM
Thanks for the recommendations.  [thumbsup]

I grabbed the tools from sears and after spending more time than I wanted to searching the net for elusive parts, I copped out and grabbed it all from the dealer.  :P  Est. 5 - 7 day shipping.

I'll keep the other 3 sources in mind for next time though.  I think I'm just trying to get the bike operational as fast as I can at this point.

A local member reached out to offer some help too which was great so it's possible I'll be posting less about all the stuff I trash on my bike during the rest of this series of work I have planned.    :D
but...

we might get bored. ;D
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."