Bi xenon HID kit

[He Man]

Im going to try one of those ebay mid price range kits, and I'm wondering if anyone has fitted bixenons onto their bikes. The base of hte bulb has some sort of device that allows the reflector or bulb to move, and im wondering if that would cause fitment issues. I'm going to be running dual HIDs on my Dual headlights. I have a set of duals from monsterparts.

(in black metal housing) i have no idea how large the base of the bixenons are and the ebay sellers are too dumb to give me measurements.

[Boris]

I have Hi-Lo xenon bulb installed. With the experience of the last three years if I had to do it again then I would just install Lo beam H4 xenon and be done with it. With the xenon output on Lo beam you will not need to use Hi beam at all especially with your twin setup. Just slap two Lo beam H4 xenon bulbs in. However if you are hellbent on having Hi/Lo setup keep reading.

In case of the Hi/Lo bulb the base that attaches to the reflector is the standard H4 pattern. The difference is in the lenght of the backside of the bulb. Switching between Hi and Lo beams is done by forwarding or retracting the xenon element by use of magnet inside the bulbs base, so the back side of the bulb is longer than standard H4.

In my case I had to drill 1 inch diameter hole in the back of the standard Monster headlight bucket and attach 1/4 inch long extension cap over the hole since the bulb was too long and would not fit. In your case check how much clearance you have inside the twin setup in comparison to the OEM bucket and then decide on course of action.

[He Man]

I took apart my headlights and i can fit 3.75 inches after the light bulbs glass case ends. mine looks like this

Lens/outer case part 1/outer case part 2

there is just under 5 inches of space inside my headlamp. there is appx. 2.5 inches of space foward of the connector for the H4,  that means the back of the bulb of the HID kit can be no longer than 2.5 inches long.  I think that is a considerable amount of space for that magnetic relay no? Could you perhaps take a measurement or just a guess on how large the back of your bulb is? or even a pic, so i can compare to my OEM headlight and then get some numbers out based on relative size.

My main reason for having a hi/lo is just safety, I aim my light pretty high purposely, on low beam it will just bearly sneak into the rear window of a sedan/coupe, but on high beam, its above eye level in sedan car, which just so happens to be mirror level of an SUV whcih is what im afraid of. But i could always just have a regualr xenon and aim one of the duals lower than the other.

[He Man]

Got my hid, lights look like they will fit fine. However the harness is a bit on the short side, and i have no where to put anything. since my bike is cramped up. So i removed the airlid and im going to run my bike for a day and see if i run into any issues. The bulb gets RIDICULOUSLY hot (no i didnt touch it, but it was radiating heat, im not sure if this would melt my headlamp lens or not though)  The ballasts are freggin HUMONGOUS. I have to figure out where that goes, and 1 of the xenon bulbs  supporting rod snapped when i first threw on the high/low beam. So I am going to get that replaced first.

But these make the beast with two backsers are BRIGHT, at first they are a blue tint, but after 2-3 secons they warm up to pure white, ill need to look at it when the sun goes down to make sure though.

[He Man]

hid kit installed.

HID ballasts are massive. Wires not long enough. too damn bright (mostly because i have TWO OF THEM  ) bixenon is great, but the low beam angles to low, the high beam is pointing at god.
Fitment is a big issue, especially with the bixenons controller.

Standard Xenon is good enough since there is 1 less piece, and you can pick up a slim xenon ballast that would be eaier to hide. Im probably going to sell this kit and go with a  single bixenon slim. Have to get the bulbs warrantie first.

[He Man]

Need an opinon.

I have duals so im thinking of running 2 diff colors, perhaps 3000K yellow and 4300K white, or 4300k white and 6000 blueish. Thought im not sure the guy carries 3000k in bixenon.
The old bulbs were defective so I'm returning them for a new set.

[knightrider]

why would you want to run different colors?  its all for looks anyways, 4300k is the whitest and what all oems use.  3000k would be good for foglights because yellow doesnt reflect off of rain/snow as much as white does.   but its pretty useless if you have a 4300k right next to it. and the higher temp bulbs just get bluer until about 8000k then you start going purple and the light seriously starts degrading.

also your problem with aiming them is because your housings are made for halogen bulbs that have a small filament, hid's in comparison have a larger, longer "filament" that runs the length of the bulb, you need reflector housings made specifically for hid to really reap the benefits fully.

[He Man]

why would you want to run different colors?  its all for looks anyways, 4300k is the whitest and what all oems use.  3000k would be good for foglights because yellow doesnt reflect off of rain/snow as much as white does.   but its pretty useless if you have a 4300k right next to it. and the higher temp bulbs just get bluer until about 8000k then you start going purple and the light seriously starts degrading.

also your problem with aiming them is because your housings are made for halogen bulbs that have a small filament, hid's in comparison have a larger, longer "filament" that runs the length of the bulb, you need reflector housings made specifically for hid to really reap the benefits fully.

all noted, I want yellow because i tend to ride in the rain more often than not, and the white becaue anything above 6000K just doenst look right to me.  I have been searching around for trashed cars with a HID projector lens that  fits my duals but so far no luck.

[knightrider]

well, i think your best bet would be to get just regular hid's, and make one your low beam(4300k) and then make the high beam the 3000k then when you hit foul weather, you just turn on the high beam. but having both on at the same time would negate all the reasons for having the yellow

[knightrider]

also i doubt you will find a suitable projector  housing to fit inside your housings because of the available space you have as most are around 6 to 7 inches total length including bulbs. ive done a couple hid retrofits on cars and most of the time, the back of the headlight housing needs to be cut open to allow the projector housing to poke out because of the extra length.

[He Man]

also i doubt you will find a suitable projector  housing to fit inside your housings because of the available space you have as most are around 6 to 7 inches total length including bulbs. ive done a couple hid retrofits on cars and most of the time, the back of the headlight housing needs to be cut open to allow the projector housing to poke out because of the extra length.

I have 5 inches of space inside the housing. would a projector lens only do any good?

The way they have the controller set up is to fire both lights on at once. I honestly doubt he has 3000K in bixenon since it isnt listed. So it probably wont even happen. However i would go for a 6000 and a 4300 for the sole purpose of looks. with both lights on, its litterally so bright, it only shows up as one light. the bulb also comes with a reflector shield,  what purpose does this thing serve anyway? its facing downward so all the light reflects up (good bad? im not sure since i returned the bulbs and havent actually found a place dark enough to see the difference since the whole city is pretty lit up at night.

[knightrider]

the projector lens has be be positioned perfectly so no.  they also use a d2s bulbs which are what oem applications use. any bulb that has a halogen base is not a true hid retrofit, its basically a bandaid the industry came up with.  im not saying it doesnt work, just not as great as a true retrofit because of the very different way that halogen and hid bulbs produce light and where that light is produced.

that is pretty much my point about getting the diferent colors, you wont be able to tell the diference behind the bulbs, only people looking at you from the front will notice. 

the purpose of the shield is to cut down on glare because they know these bulbs are going into a housing that is not made for them, if you ever look at a stock monster headlight, or any headlight, the low beam is accually using the top half of the reflector housing, the bottom half is for the high beam. 

[He Man]

the projector lens has be be positioned perfectly so no.  they also use a d2s bulbs which are what oem applications use. any bulb that has a halogen base is not a true hid retrofit, its basically a bandaid the industry came up with.  im not saying it doesnt work, just not as great as a true retrofit because of the very different way that halogen and hid bulbs produce light and where that light is produced.

that is pretty much my point about getting the diferent colors, you wont be able to tell the diference behind the bulbs, only people looking at you from the front will notice. 

the purpose of the shield is to cut down on glare because they know these bulbs are going into a housing that is not made for them, if you ever look at a stock monster headlight, or any headlight, the low beam is accually using the top half of the reflector housing, the bottom half is for the high beam. 

Got the new bulbs in today, and i stuck with dual 4300K. I tried the bike with and without the housing, and you are defintely right, without the housing, the glare is riduculous. In fact, even with the housing, the glare is still ridiculous> I rode into an allyway that was about 10 feet wide and light went up atleast 25 feet on each side of the wall before it began to fade, i can only inmagine what i'm doing to drivers that are right next to me. Perhaps a larger shield.

[punta]

gday
i have this unit below installed its great
electronic ballast is tiny and complete unit is rather light weight
however it does get v hot but seems to not effect the headlight lens
the only thing was i for some reason had to install a small relay in order for them to start up which seemed strange as a halogen lamp drawed the same if not more power 
i got it from this site delivered within the week via UPS
http://www.xtralights.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1349
punta