Cross threaded/fouled spark plug threads

Started by Slide Panda, May 10, 2012, 06:30:20 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

Slide Panda

2000, M900
So it seems I cross threaded my spark plug in the horizontal cylinder. It's out now, but won't go back in (duh). I've had as odd a peak as I can with a light and naked eyes and it appears the problem appears near the external side

Obviously a problem there's a number of paths to pursue to a solution, so I'm coming to you guys for 'the best'

1. Get a normal tap, oil it up and try to recut the to threads where things seem to have gone funny, with the head in place. Seems a bad idea as you're turing the cutting tool into the head and getting the cutting faces lined up on the fouled threads first.

2. Get a special spark plug re-threading tool for $50+ like so: Link

And try to fix with the head on.
- The tool has a collapsed cutting head that you insert then expand and back out. Cutting from the inside out. So you draw (hopefully) draw any shavings out. And you engage with good threads first.

3. Get surgical and remove the head, and clean the threads from the inside out and ensure no shavings get inside.
- most time and fuss intensive.

So I figure option 1 will end in tears, or has the highest chance.
Option 2, never used a tool like that, so I'm not sure how well they do
Option 3. I know will work. It's just a big hassle.

Thoughts?
-Throttle's on the right, so are the brakes.  Good luck.
- '00 M900S with all the farkles
- '08 KTM 690 StupidMoto
- '07 Triumph 675 Track bike.

ducpainter

Grease the tap...

give it a go.

If it doesn't work you can deal with a time-sert or helicoil...

you decide which.
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."



suzyj

Ripping the head off is really, really easy.  Just pop the belt off, undo the header, pop the throttle bodies off (no need to undo the throttle cable as you're only lifting it half an inch), then undo the 4 head nuts and slide it off.  Don't even need to drop the oil.


2007 Monster 695 with a few mods.
2013 Piaggio Typhoon 50 2 stroke speed demon.

Slide Panda

Well I found that back tap for about $20 after a little more hunting. So I'm going to give that a roll first.

Just worried about shavings in the head :(
-Throttle's on the right, so are the brakes.  Good luck.
- '00 M900S with all the farkles
- '08 KTM 690 StupidMoto
- '07 Triumph 675 Track bike.

Big John

Done many times both ways. I would not do grease method in this case because there is risk and these heads are too easy to pull and parts too expensive to accept that type of risk. Never tried back tapping.

ducpainter

Quote from: Slide Panda on May 11, 2012, 07:31:27 AM
Well I found that back tap for about $20 after a little more hunting. So I'm going to give that a roll first.

Just worried about shavings in the head :(
I've tapped a bunch of plug threads with the head on (both 2 and 4 stroke) and grease on the tap and never had a problem.

YMMV
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."