Got LED blinkers, is there a flasher for them?

Started by Skyshadow, January 18, 2012, 10:32:55 AM

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xsephirot

Just buy a flasher relay off fleabay for 20 bucks. It works perfectly well. I'm going to say 99% of bikes out there are 12v so no compatibility issues.

mangeldbug

#16
I got LED blinkers for Christmas and am just getting around to installing.  I have a relay for LEDs.  But where the heck is my stock relay unit located so I can replace it???  (I have a 2002 M750S.)  We've been looking around everywhere.  We found the power relay for the blinker/brake/head lights (by the battery) but not the flasher relay.  My husband tried installing some 1000 ohm resistors instead of a relay, which stopped them all from blinking at the same time, but they were blinking much faster than normal.  

Help!   [bang]

Edit: I think I may have found the answer here.  The flasher is integrated in the instrument cluster, so resistors are much easier.  I think the resistors we tried already were too low.  We will try some 5W ones and see what happens.
2002 M750Si.e. "Senna" - Meravigliosa, Mera for short
2017 390 Duke Commuter
2001 XT225 Zombie Assault Vehicle
1987 YSR50 #116 race bike

Skyshadow

I dont know about your bike but on mine its right next to the ignition relay.
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Quote from: cupcake on February 19, 2012, 04:53:56 PM
My rear brake is just for looks.

mangeldbug

OK.  Where is the ignition relay?  The only thing we found resembling some sort of relay was a double plug attached to the battery box.  One was the flashers, brake, and headlight.  We determined this to be the power relay for all the lights, not the flasher relay just for the turn signals.  I cant remember what the other was for in that plug, but it was not the signals.

Quote from: Skyshadow on March 26, 2012, 01:31:26 PM
I dont know about your bike but on mine its right next to the ignition relay.
2002 M750Si.e. "Senna" - Meravigliosa, Mera for short
2017 390 Duke Commuter
2001 XT225 Zombie Assault Vehicle
1987 YSR50 #116 race bike

Slide Panda

You all might be talking apples and oranges - Bug what year is your bike?
-Throttle's on the right, so are the brakes.  Good luck.
- '00 M900S with all the farkles
- '08 KTM 690 StupidMoto
- '07 Triumph 675 Track bike.

Skyshadow

- Homemade Exhaust
- K&N filter
- Tail chop w/ integrated tail light
- Sliders
Quote from: cupcake on February 19, 2012, 04:53:56 PM
My rear brake is just for looks.

Slide Panda

Ah, which will have an electronic flasher in and part of the dash which can't be replaced like one does on the older, pre electronic dash monsters.
-Throttle's on the right, so are the brakes.  Good luck.
- '00 M900S with all the farkles
- '08 KTM 690 StupidMoto
- '07 Triumph 675 Track bike.

Skyshadow

Sucky... what is she eliminates the stock, direct wires around it and puts in a after market on?
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Quote from: cupcake on February 19, 2012, 04:53:56 PM
My rear brake is just for looks.

Slide Panda

Not so easy. It's an integral part of the dash.. tamper at your own peril.

Resistors are the way to go and it seems she's on that track.
-Throttle's on the right, so are the brakes.  Good luck.
- '00 M900S with all the farkles
- '08 KTM 690 StupidMoto
- '07 Triumph 675 Track bike.

mangeldbug

#24
Quote from: Sad Panda on March 26, 2012, 06:18:20 PM
Not so easy. It's an integral part of the dash.. tamper at your own peril.

Resistors are the way to go and it seems she's on that track.

OK, I figured the 01 M750 Dk (carbie) and my 02 M750S (fuel injected) would probably be different in more than a few ways.
We definitely did not want to crack the dash, especially after the warnings to not go down that path in the other thread, so we got some resistors at the auto parts store (they are ginormous!) and managed to tuck them in behind the headlight bucket.  It fixed all issues.  Only one side blinks at a time now and at the normal slow rate.   [thumbsup]  
I just have to keep an eye on their placement as we zip tied the resistors to the headlight bracket.  
Its really tough hiding things on a Monster...

Thanks  :)
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Ddan

Quote from: mangeldbug on March 26, 2012, 08:59:28 PM
OK, I figured the 01 M750 Dk (carbie) and my 02 M750S (fuel injected) would probably be different in more than a few ways.
We definitely did not want to crack the dash, especially after the warnings to not go down that path in the other thread, so we got some resistors at the auto parts store (they are ginormous!) and managed to tuck them in behind the headlight bucket.  It fixed all issues.  Only one side blinks at a time now and at the normal slow rate.   [thumbsup]  
I just have to keep an eye on their placement as we zip tied the resistors to the headlight bracket.  
Its really tough hiding things on a Monster...

Thanks  :)

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mangeldbug

#26
Quote from: Dan on March 27, 2012, 02:23:13 AM
Don't forget they get hot

Yup!  That's why we zip tied to the metal bracket and didnt bundle with any other wires.  Hopefully the zip ties dont melt.  A better solution (maybe I can source smaller resistors?) may be in my future, but this will at least allow my bike to pass inspection, which is coming up.  These were automotive resistors for LED - Im not sure about the wattage, but it might be more than I need.

Im slightly annoyed however.  I got LED bulbs to conserve the battery, and then I had to add back possibly more wattage than I reduced due to the resistors!  I replaced all the bulbs on my KLR250 with LED (itty bitty battery) and believe me it made a world of difference.  Ive now done the same LED swap on my XT225.  Of course, the difference is much more noticeable on those little bikes than my Duc, but still.  Annoying.
2002 M750Si.e. "Senna" - Meravigliosa, Mera for short
2017 390 Duke Commuter
2001 XT225 Zombie Assault Vehicle
1987 YSR50 #116 race bike

NAKID

Why did you get them to conserve the battery? I would imagine most of the time the blinkers are on is when the bike is running.
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mangeldbug

#28
True, but I have other stuff hooked up to the battery drawing on it.  Heated grips, hookup for heated vest, GPS, other little things.  I figure every little bit that I conserve helps in the long run.  I like doing longer rides, sometimes multiday, where I dont have access to a charger.  

On my KLR, switching over to LED bulbs (blinkers, brakes, dash) made it so that I could actually use my heated grips in cold weather.  Otherwise I was literally killing the battery while I was riding - the charging system couldnt keep up with the draw I was putting on the battery.  The Duc has a larger battery and better charging system, so the give and take is more balanced, but I do notice my battery dropping down a volt or so while sitting at a long light (I have a volt meter) when I have everything turned on, and especially if I have both my heated grips and vest on High.  

I doubt its really necessary on the Duc, but because of the huge power savings I was seeing when I swapped to LED on my KLR and XT, I figured why not
2002 M750Si.e. "Senna" - Meravigliosa, Mera for short
2017 390 Duke Commuter
2001 XT225 Zombie Assault Vehicle
1987 YSR50 #116 race bike

NAKID

Gotcha....


I'm of the simpler is better mindset. That and I don't need heated grips which I'm sure draw quite a bit of power....
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