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ducpainter

#15
September 22, 2012, 01:04:58 PM
Quote from: He Man on September 22, 2012, 07:22:51 AM
there are so many kinds of diesel oil, i was wondering which one is a good diesel oil.


When you really think about it, its ~$12/qt for top of the line moto specific oil, if the best diesel oil is $10. why not just get moto specific?

Shell Rotella is good oil.
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Howie

#16
September 22, 2012, 05:55:52 PM
Quote from: He Man on September 22, 2012, 07:22:51 AM
there are so many kinds of diesel oil, i was wondering which one is a good diesel oil.


When you really think about it, its ~$12/qt for top of the line moto specific oil, if the best diesel oil is $10. why not just get moto specific?

Shell Rotella T6 comes to mind, full synthetic and 15W-40 would work well for us plus it is commonly available.  Really, any brand name full synthetic inan approved weight would be fine.  Damn, Nate beat me to it.

$2 a quart less?  That would be a little less than $8 an oil change.  $8/3000 miles is .267 cents a mile saved.  With all that money saved before you know it I could buy...ummm...not much.  The only rational reason would be convenience.

ducatiz

#17
September 22, 2012, 06:56:25 PM Last Edit: September 22, 2012, 07:06:43 PM by ducatiz
Quote from: howie on September 22, 2012, 05:55:52 PM
Shell Rotella T6 comes to mind, full synthetic and 15W-40 would work well for us plus it is commonly available.  Really, any brand name full synthetic inan approved weight would be fine.  Damn, Nate beat me to it.

$2 a quart less?  That would be a little less than $8 an oil change.  $8/3000 miles is .267 cents a mile saved.  With all that money saved before you know it I could buy...ummm...not much.  The only rational reason would be convenience.

T6 is 5w40 not 15w.  It is JASO MA, but 5w... hmm.. might be too light... 

http://www.shell.com/home/content/rotella/products/t6/

The regular T is 15w40 but is not synthetic.. it's also JASO MA.

(of course you can mix them 50/50 and have a semi-synth that is essentially a 10w40)
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Howie

#18
September 22, 2012, 09:44:56 PM
Quote from: ducatiz on September 22, 2012, 06:56:25 PM
T6 is 5w40 not 15w.  It is JASO MA, but 5w... hmm.. might be too light... 

http://www.shell.com/home/content/rotella/products/t6/

The regular T is 15w40 but is not synthetic.. it's also JASO MA.

(of course you can mix them 50/50 and have a semi-synth that is essentially a 10w40)

I stand corrected.  Unfortunately, Mobil Delvac full syn is also 5W-40.

ungeheuer

#19
September 23, 2012, 03:22:37 AM Last Edit: September 23, 2012, 03:24:37 AM by ungeheuer
Quote from: He Man on September 22, 2012, 07:22:51 AM
there are so many kinds of diesel oil, i was wondering which one is a good diesel oil.
My DR650 gets Caltex (Chevron) Delo 400 diesel oil.

Quote from: He Man on September 22, 2012, 07:22:51 AMWhen you really think about it, its ~$12/qt for top of the line moto specific oil, if the best diesel oil is $10. why not just get moto specific?
Motul 7100 full synth @ A$100 per 4 litre.  
Caltex Delo 400 diesel @ A$37 per 5 litre.  
So the thumper gets diesel oil and loves it.

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koko64

#20
September 23, 2012, 04:16:25 AM
That Shell Rotella T6, available in Oz? Or is it under a different name?
I mean, full synth, plenty of additives for the tranny, 5-40, good price, sounds like a good winter oil at least.
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freeclimbmtb

#21
September 23, 2012, 04:39:00 AM
I'd get the AMSOIL for cost, he wouldnt charge me over his price.   To be honest, I'd prefer Royal Purple, but hey, its what hes got!

Does anyone have the filter disection thread handy? I feel like K&N and WIX were the same filter inside, but K&N has that handy nut...



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When I put a big lumpy cam in my Jeeps straight 6, comp cams recomended a sh*t ton of moly on the cam/lobes/timing set/distributor gears/bearings/and lifters.  Then for break-in Rotella T6 with a bottle of STP.  (3000rpm for 30 minutes, raising the rev to 3500 for 20 seconds every 5 minutes)  Then run Rotella T6 with a bottle of STP for the next 500 miles, then my synthetic of choice (the suggested AMSOIL, RP, or Mobil1.)

Cam broke and lifters broke in PERFECTLY.  Unfortunately the cam walked and I blew up the distributor drive/driven gears after 600 miles.  Comp sent me a new one, wrecked that during the second break in (lobes/lifters looked good though)  went back to the stock cam and 5/12 blown lifters and it runs fine.  [bang]

Expensive lesson.  Next spring:  digital ignition with square wave trigger and external oil pump= NO DISTRIBUTOR GEARS!! MOAH POWAH!!

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Howie

#22
September 23, 2012, 05:15:08 AM
Quote from: koko64 on September 23, 2012, 04:16:25 AM
That Shell Rotella T6, available in Oz? Or is it under a different name?
I mean, full synth, plenty of additives for the tranny, 5-40, good price, sounds like a good winter oil at least.

Nope, not by that name anyway.  Go here and scroll down for oils:
http://www.shell.com.au/home/content/aus/products_services/

freeclimbmtb

#23
September 23, 2012, 05:21:06 AM
Ok, I gotta ask.  How did the "Oz" nickname come about?  (its been bugging me for weeks now)
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ducpainter

#24
September 23, 2012, 05:29:48 AM
Quote from: freeclimbmtb on September 23, 2012, 04:39:00 AM
I'd get the AMSOIL for cost, he wouldnt charge me over his price.   To be honest, I'd prefer Royal Purple, but hey, its what hes got!

<snip>
The owner of a tree company with a huge fleet of trucks in the northeast is also an owner of Royal Purple.

They tried it in their fleet...

They don't use it any more.

Take from that what you will.
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    is even more amazing than yours."
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    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
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freeclimbmtb

#25
September 23, 2012, 05:47:07 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on September 23, 2012, 05:29:48 AM
The owner of a tree company with a huge fleet of trucks in the northeast is also an owner of Royal Purple.

They tried it in their fleet...

They don't use it any more.

Take from that what you will.

So...they own a company and wont use their own products?  HAHA.  Yeah I guess the AMSOIL will work.  Plus...they offer oil analysis...not sure what I would do with such a tool..but its nice to have I guess..
2011 Monster 796 ABS

CW/evotech tail tidy, lightwereks integrated tail light, CRG Arrow bar end mirrors, Duc.ee solenoid eliminator & 696 midpipe, sans charcoal canister, pileon grab bars, Arrow Dark slipons (sans dB killers), Rizoma Zero11's, Rizoma Lux grips, Rizoma rearsets, Rizoma gas cap, 1098R Ohlins forks, IMA Triples, Galfer wave rotors, Brembo radial masters, Rizoma reservoirs, Ohlins DU737, Rizoma bars, 15t AFAM front and 41t supersprox rear sprocket with EK MVXC chain.

ducpainter

#26
September 23, 2012, 05:50:48 AM
Oil analysis can benefit you by telling what is in the oil that shouldn't be there...

like metals, meaning possible part failure or simply silicon/dirt which could indicate poor air filtration.

People that runs K&N air filters typically suffer high silicon levels.

It benefits those that extend their service intervals the most.
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    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
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