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Author Topic: Keihin FCRs Vs Mikuni CV carbs  (Read 18922 times)
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« Reply #30 on: December 10, 2012, 02:26:06 AM »

With no enrichener, you learn to use the accelerator pump to squirt fuel into the manifolds and hold the throttle at just off idle/fast idle. A richer Idle mixture setting in winter helps. So more involved to start, but runs better in the cold with no freezing and great performance.
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« Reply #31 on: December 10, 2012, 09:55:10 AM »

With no enrichener, you learn to use the accelerator pump to squirt fuel into the manifolds and hold the throttle at just off idle/fast idle. A richer Idle mixture setting in winter helps. So more involved to start, but runs better in the cold with no freezing and great performance.
Thanks.  I might well look into that next time I need carbs.

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« Reply #32 on: December 10, 2012, 07:44:44 PM »

phil -- how did you `beef up the starter system?'
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« Reply #33 on: December 11, 2012, 01:25:46 PM »

phil -- how did you `beef up the starter system?'
Mainly by upgrading the wires from the battery to the relay, and from the relay to the starter, from 6ga to 4ga, and adding a dedicated ground line back from the starter to the battery instead of relying on grounding through the frame/engine.  I also was able to get a stronger battery that was the same physical size as the original.

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« Reply #34 on: December 20, 2012, 01:37:31 PM »

+1 on a wiring upgrade for the starter.  Made a HUGE difference in how fast the 900 carbies start.  I ordered the Powerlet kit for like $30.
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« Reply #35 on: January 11, 2013, 09:09:16 AM »

I'm interested in the comments about cold weather.  My original carbs wore out a couple years ago, so I had the choice.  I was worried about the lack of an enrichener, and stories that bikes with the FCRs can be harder to start, especially in cold weather, so I got a used set of the OEM carbs.  They seem to do alright in the cold, once I beefed up the starter system.

Are the FCRs actually good in cold weather?

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Phil, if one of those stories was mine, I apologize. My cold wether starting issues were completely self-induced. I installed the Powerlet kit and had my carbs adjusted and it helped a bit but not much. Couldn't get the bike started to go on a New Year's Day ride.
I was working on that and changing the belts the other day and the friend who was helping me/showing me how to do it noticed that the battery I had was way underpowered.

See, when my OEM batt died a couple of years ago, I didn't want to replace it with a wet cell and the Westco dealer sold me what he said was listed for our bikes. Well, it was a 9Mah/120CCA batt when spec calls for a 10Mah/150 CCA BATT. (IIRC)

So installed a TrueGel gel hybrid battery yesterday (16Mah/190CCA) and it fired right up the second I hit the starter button on a 35 degree day. Don't know whether to jump for joy or kick myself in the ass.

Otherwise, ditto to all the praised heaped on the FCRs. I like them so much I want to get a pair for my F650.
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« Reply #36 on: January 13, 2013, 08:41:52 AM »

Phil, if one of those stories was mine, I apologize. My cold wether starting issues were completely self-induced. I installed the Powerlet kit and had my carbs adjusted and it helped a bit but not much. Couldn't get the bike started to go on a New Year's Day ride.
I was working on that and changing the belts the other day and the friend who was helping me/showing me how to do it noticed that the battery I had was way underpowered.

See, when my OEM batt died a couple of years ago, I didn't want to replace it with a wet cell and the Westco dealer sold me what he said was listed for our bikes. Well, it was a 9Mah/120CCA batt when spec calls for a 10Mah/150 CCA BATT. (IIRC)

So installed a TrueGel gel hybrid battery yesterday (16Mah/190CCA) and it fired right up the second I hit the starter button on a 35 degree day. Don't know whether to jump for joy or kick myself in the ass.

Otherwise, ditto to all the praised heaped on the FCRs. I like them so much I want to get a pair for my F650.
Alright.  Well, the carbs I have on there now only have about 50K on them, so maybe 10 years or so down the road when they wear out, I'll give the FCRs another look.

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