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"some guy on the internet" sez slipper clutches are quieter. True or false?

Started by Rudemouthsky, July 12, 2013, 11:52:31 AM

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Rudemouthsky

July 12, 2013, 11:52:31 AM
 [coffee]

I'm going to my first track day pretty soon, and I also would like a quieter clutch for certain other reasons.

"while there is a lower class, I am in it, and while there is a criminal element, I am of it, and while there is a soul in prison, I am not free." -Debs

Rudemouthsky

#1
July 12, 2013, 12:14:57 PM
I'm guessin it's BS...I don't fathom any reason they would be quieter.
"while there is a lower class, I am in it, and while there is a criminal element, I am of it, and while there is a soul in prison, I am not free." -Debs

ducatiz

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July 12, 2013, 12:17:40 PM
quieter than what?
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Rudemouthsky

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July 12, 2013, 12:29:35 PM
than standard clutches...I drank way too much coffee today, hence the large volume of stoopid posts.
"while there is a lower class, I am in it, and while there is a criminal element, I am of it, and while there is a soul in prison, I am not free." -Debs

ducatiz

#4
July 12, 2013, 12:31:46 PM
Quote from: Buck Naked on July 12, 2013, 12:29:35 PM
than standard clutches...I drank way too much coffee today, hence the large volume of stoopid posts.

I don't think so.  If you're talking bona fide dry slipper and not APTC, there would still be the dry clutch plate rattle and that's 90% of the noise.
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"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

Rudemouthsky

#5
July 12, 2013, 01:12:18 PM
#1 reason I want a slipper is a recurring nightmare I have of my engine stalling or seizing up on me while on the freeway. Kind of a dumb reason to spend that kind of $$, so I'm looking for other benefits as I pretty much only ride on the street.
"while there is a lower class, I am in it, and while there is a criminal element, I am of it, and while there is a soul in prison, I am not free." -Debs

MonsterHPD

#6
July 12, 2013, 01:14:41 PM
I have an STM 48-tooth bought second-hand and rather well used as it turned out so there is pretty much play between outer hub and plates. It works beautifull, both regular clutch function and slipper function. But, it's the noisiest clutch I've ever Heard  .... so in my World, the answer is NO.
technically, there's no reason why it should be quiter. I imagine an alu clutch could be quiter than a steel one, though; less Church bell potential ...  
Monster 900-2002 (sold, alive and well in the UK), 749R / 1100 HYM combo for track days, wifes / my Monster Dark 800-2003 (not entirely "Dark" anymore and a personal favourite) , 50% of 900SSie -2000 track bike for rainy days-now with tuned ST2 motor and Microtec ECU. Also parked due to having been T-boned on track.

MonsterHPD

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July 12, 2013, 01:15:46 PM
Quote from: Buck Naked on July 12, 2013, 01:12:18 PM
#1 reason I want a slipper is a recurring nightmare I have of my engine stalling or seizing up on me while on the freeway. Kind of a dumb reason to spend that kind of $$, so I'm looking for other benefits as I pretty much only ride on the street.

Remember, if he gearbox seizes up on you, the slipper clutch won't help  ;D
Monster 900-2002 (sold, alive and well in the UK), 749R / 1100 HYM combo for track days, wifes / my Monster Dark 800-2003 (not entirely "Dark" anymore and a personal favourite) , 50% of 900SSie -2000 track bike for rainy days-now with tuned ST2 motor and Microtec ECU. Also parked due to having been T-boned on track.

SpikeC

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July 12, 2013, 01:39:52 PM Last Edit: July 12, 2013, 06:35:16 PM by SpikeC
 Well, I am some guy on the Internet, and I say that slipper clutches are for people who can't ride worth a sh!t! You down shift, you use the throttle to sinc the revs.
Ride a shafty for a few years and you will learn how!

edit: damn smell chucker!
Spike Cornelius
  PDX
   2009 M1100S Assorted blingy odds and ends(now gone)
2008 Bimota DB5R  woo-Hoo!
   1965 T100SC

MonsterHPD

#9
July 12, 2013, 01:52:51 PM
Well, each to his own ways.
Slipper clutch is pretty old hat in these days of electronic rider aids, but it sure is convenient. And noisy.     
Monster 900-2002 (sold, alive and well in the UK), 749R / 1100 HYM combo for track days, wifes / my Monster Dark 800-2003 (not entirely "Dark" anymore and a personal favourite) , 50% of 900SSie -2000 track bike for rainy days-now with tuned ST2 motor and Microtec ECU. Also parked due to having been T-boned on track.

Rudemouthsky

#10
July 12, 2013, 02:06:51 PM
Quote from: SpikeC on July 12, 2013, 01:39:52 PM
Well, I am some guy on the Internet, and I say that slipper clutches are for people who an't ride worth a sh!t! You down shift, you use the throttle to sinc the revs.
Ride a shifty for a few years and you will learn how!

I read this with the voice of my c*cksucker old prick of an ex father-in-law's voice in my head, thanks for that!
"while there is a lower class, I am in it, and while there is a criminal element, I am of it, and while there is a soul in prison, I am not free." -Debs

SpikeC

#11
July 12, 2013, 06:35:57 PM
 yer welcome! glad I can help!   [drink]
Spike Cornelius
  PDX
   2009 M1100S Assorted blingy odds and ends(now gone)
2008 Bimota DB5R  woo-Hoo!
   1965 T100SC

He Man

#12
July 12, 2013, 07:23:58 PM
Stock clutch is bad. 48T when the basket isnt worn the make the beast with two backs out, is pretty quiet, but that wont last long.
the slippers ive used, ducabike and stock 749R, are the loudest make the beast with two backsing things in the world. Take off hard from standstill and it moans enough to make ur teeth fall out.

my APTC wet clutch (1100single spark) is still loud for a clutch. I though these things were suppose to be quiet. it just sounds like dry clutch muffled in oil!!!! though, theres not much difference in the two so that should be expected.

krista

#13
July 16, 2013, 11:10:50 PM
Want quiet? Put nichols basket and barnett clutch in there. Wow! I put that setup on a guy's 996SPS and HE couldn't believe it was the same open clutch design.
Krista Kelley ... autist formerly known as chris
official nerd for ca-cycleworks.com
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