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Proposal Would Restrict Motorcycle Passengers - Missouri

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MendoDave

#30
August 21, 2013, 09:32:12 PM
Quote from: Ducatamount on August 09, 2013, 06:27:02 AM


I'm not even for making seat belts mandatory.

I am, for one reason, it keeps the Operator behind the wheel where they belong, instead of bouncing around all over the car.
If the vehicle gets hit from the side for instance and the Diver is knocked over to the passer side of the car, there is no one on the brakes or using the wheel and the car will go where it may after that.

Even if the going just gets rough a belt will keep your butt planted in the seat.

Ducatamount

#31
August 22, 2013, 03:57:54 AM
So... the govt. should make it mandatory because it's safer? Where do we draw the line as far as the govt. protecting us from ourselves? Shouldn't people take most of the responsibility for their own safety? Wouldn't a smart person do just that? Did you know some politicians wanted mandatory seat belts on motorcycles? Do we want to people like this these making laws to protect us?
    I realize I have stepped over the "no political posts" line and will now be over in the Ban Yourself area.  :P
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ducpainter

#32
August 22, 2013, 04:10:12 AM
Quote from: Ducatamount on August 22, 2013, 03:57:54 AM
So... the govt. should make it mandatory because it's safer? Where do we draw the line as far as the govt. protecting us from ourselves? Shouldn't people take most of the responsibility for their own safety? Wouldn't a smart person do just that? Did you know some politicians wanted mandatory seat belts on motorcycles? Do we want to people like this these making laws to protect us?
    I realize I have stepped over the "no political posts" line and will now be over in the Ban Yourself area.  :P
Since Ducatamount himself knows this crosses the political line I would strongly suggest no one answer his question.

After reading some of the posts previous to his some other people should report to 'The Ban yourself thread' as well.

This one won't last much longer.
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koko64

#33
August 22, 2013, 08:59:53 AM
In my state in Oz, you start with a learners permit wearing an L plate for a period and no passenger, then a P plate for 2 years iirc which is a probationary licence and no passenger, before you receive your full licence which allows for a passenger (and more powerful bike). Others from Victoria, Oz may elaobrate as I'm not up with latest.

That seems a reasonable minimum requirement. It's a graduated licencing system in that regard and far from perfect.  I normally complain about our rules down here, but these laws discourage noobs taking a passenger.I am not aware of any training re passengers in our licencing system, but I'm out of touch.
We also have restrictions regarding numbers of passengers for probationary car licence drivers (and horsepower restrictions like no turbos, no V8s, etc) until you get your full licence.
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MendoDave

#34
August 22, 2013, 09:43:44 AM
No Turbos would really be a bummer If you happened to drive a diesel.

El-Twin

#35
August 22, 2013, 10:17:48 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on August 22, 2013, 04:10:12 AM
Since Ducatamount himself knows this crosses the political line I would strongly suggest no one answer his question.

After reading some of the posts previous to his some other people should report to 'The Ban yourself thread' as well.

This one won't last much longer.

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And I don't wanna die...... I just wanna ride my motorceye-cle."


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angler

#36
August 23, 2013, 10:22:38 AM Last Edit: August 23, 2013, 10:24:17 AM by angler
Quote from: Buck Naked on August 10, 2013, 07:18:56 AM
"Lefty thinking facist (sic)" = oxymoron. But I agree with the rest.

Not according to Danzig. http://21stcenturywire.com/2013/08/18/glenn-danzig-democrats-are-fascists-disguised-as-liberals/

The last thing anyone needs is more regulation. Put me down on the extreme libertarian side of this one.







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bdub

#37
August 23, 2013, 10:34:57 AM
What would be the point of a government if people were self regulating?
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angler

#38
August 23, 2013, 10:53:19 AM
Quote from: bdub on August 23, 2013, 10:34:57 AM
What would be the point of a government if people were self regulating?

Not falling for that one. I haven't seen the ban hammer in a long time......
996 forks, BoomTubes, frame sliders, CRG bar-end mirrors, vizitech integrated tail light, rizoma front turn signals, rizoma grips, cycle cat multistrada clip ons, pantah belt covers - more to come

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. H. L. Mencken

Rudemouthsky

#39
August 23, 2013, 10:55:37 AM
Quote from: angler on August 23, 2013, 10:22:38 AM
Not according to Danzig. http://21stcenturywire.com/2013/08/18/glenn-danzig-democrats-are-fascists-disguised-as-liberals/

The last thing anyone needs is more regulation. Put me down on the extreme libertarian side of this one.







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Democrats aren't leftists. (not talking politics Ducpainter...just semantics)
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angler

#40
August 23, 2013, 12:25:42 PM
Quote from: Buck Naked on August 23, 2013, 10:55:37 AM
Democrats aren't leftists. (not talking politics Ducpainter...just semantics)

Are you talking to me or Glenn Danzig? I didn't make that connection.....

Actually they can be. Democrat and Republican are just labels that have drifted across the political spectrum and have even flip-flopped across time. Right now, I would argue that both parties are simply centrist with a penchant for statism and cronyism.
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The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. H. L. Mencken

pesto

#41
August 23, 2013, 04:53:58 PM
My thoughts on this issue are that I would never correct Glenn Danzig.
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ducpainter

#42
August 23, 2013, 05:27:14 PM
A couple of suspensions were handed out.

Don't talk politics and tell me you're not.

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