Differences in braking

Started by d3vi@nt, November 03, 2013, 08:17:56 PM

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BK_856er

Don't be afraid to play with the clickers, just be sure to write down your base settings so you can go back to where you were and change only one thing at a time.  Usually three clicks in one direction or another will make some difference and you can decide if the trend is OK.  Single click is probably a small difference.  But every bike is different, and as SP points out the components age and degrade so clicks are more relative than absolute on anything but a new bike.

BUT, first step is to make sure your spring tensions (sag) are good front and back.  Then tackle hydraulics (clickers).  Lots to read on the subject.  Dave Moss has some videos for example (google).  Suspension tweaking is fun, but $50 for a basic suspension setup from your local suspension guru is usually money well spent!

BK

Slide Panda

The Dave Moss stuff ca be a bit round about, but when you distill the info in it, it's worth the time cost. And if you're a Cali type, he's out there and initial evals and set ups are a very reasonable cost.
-Throttle's on the right, so are the brakes.  Good luck.
- '00 M900S with all the farkles
- '08 KTM 690 StupidMoto
- '07 Triumph 675 Track bike.

d3vi@nt

Thanks again, guys/gals.

SP -that fluid looks nasty! I had the forks changed out a few months ago -I'm sure it had never been done. I'll have to see what's involved with the rear set up.

I also plan to change out the pads after I swap out the lines. I'll clean up the rotors at that point.

jerryz; how would you define 'regularly' given I don't ride this bike very aggressively. Every 1,000 miles or so?
'13 MTS GT
'99 ST2
'07 M695 - Sold

Howie

Bedding in and riding style/conditions will affect glazing.  If all is good you should not need to deglaze your pads.  A step I take when replacing pads without replacing rotors is to lightly bevel the leading, top and bottom edges of the pad.

jerryz

The pads on my  duactis seem to glaze up every 3-4k  the brakes still work 95% fine but initial bite is faded a little so maybe i am being a little over fussy  but its not a big job to clean the discs or de glaze pads ,, brake fluid need flushing every couple of years or so for best braking , yes fork  oil change every 20k or 4 years 

d3vi@nt

Finally got the brake lines installed and bled. Surprising difference in firmness at the lever. But still somehow not as good as the Monster. I haven't gotten new pads for the front yet, which is my next step along with thoroughly cleaning the rotors.

Is there any difference between rotors from '99 and '07 on these models (besides size)? Just trying to figure what else might be different.

Either way, I'm glad I upgraded the lines. Still have to do the clutch line, but that requires removing more plastics, which I'm not a fan of.
'13 MTS GT
'99 ST2
'07 M695 - Sold

Howie

Later model rotors get lighter, but beware, on later Ducatis there are different configurations, 100 offset 6 bolt 320 mm (fits your bike) 150 offset 5 bolt 320mm. and whatever offset and bolt 300mm. rotors.  Our sponsors will know what fits your bike and set you up.

Slide Panda

Quote from: howie on December 01, 2013, 06:54:26 PM
and whatever offset and bolt 300mm. rotors.

Zero offset for the 300mm rotors
-Throttle's on the right, so are the brakes.  Good luck.
- '00 M900S with all the farkles
- '08 KTM 690 StupidMoto
- '07 Triumph 675 Track bike.