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« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2014, 10:42:59 AM » |
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I believe Dovi and Iannone got updates to the bike. Cal not so much.
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« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2014, 11:20:43 AM » |
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I'm pretty sure they put Cal on the Donkey since he's leaving.
His bike definitely had different bodywork from Iannone and Dovi.
If you look closely (see below), you can tell that Cal's bike is a GP14, not a GP13.  |
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« Reply #17 on: August 19, 2014, 07:56:38 AM » |
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If by real bike you mean something other than the Duc, then I would agree.
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« Reply #18 on: August 19, 2014, 09:42:27 AM » |
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Didn't know Cal had been demoted to a sattelite!
How about Iannone- just nicked Dovi even!
Yes, and gave MM some of his own medicine. Neither were phased by it.
I'd like to see Cal whoop it up at least once and beat Dovi.
Perhaps he's too mentally beat already.
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« Reply #19 on: August 19, 2014, 01:50:48 PM » |
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I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt in that it's his first year on the Duc... I think he's placing in about the same position as Dovi/Joe were placing last year.
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« Reply #20 on: August 20, 2014, 06:59:28 AM » |
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I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt in that it's his first year on the Duc... I think he's placing in about the same position as Dovi/Joe were placing last year.
So you're assuming that Dovi and Iannone changed their riding style to suit the bike or that they just found a trick to make it go faster? I still think that Cal's team and the engineers have a communication problem. I can also say that Cal went well on the Yamaha, which is all about corner stability and speed. His ego got the better of him thinking that his riding style could match the complete opposite style bike. |
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« Reply #21 on: August 20, 2014, 07:37:17 AM » |
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The only "trick" anyone found on the Ducati is the softer rear tire...and unfortunately it won't last an entire race. They're still finishing in about the same position as they have the last several years. Closer to the lead from an overall time standpoint, but that's just because they can carry a higher pace for the first 1/3 of the race.
Cal's problem is his confidence on the bike is totally shot, and now he doesn't really have any motivation since he isn't getting any upgrades. I don't believe his laptimes are any worse than Dovi/Iannone's after their tires have been destroyed. He just lacks their pace out of the gates.
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« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2014, 02:55:07 AM » |
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If by real bike you mean something other than the Duc, then I would agree. I would love to see Crazy Joe on a factory Honda.
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« Reply #23 on: August 21, 2014, 09:07:45 AM » |
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So you're assuming that Dovi and Iannone changed their riding style to suit the bike or that they just found a trick to make it go faster? I still think that Cal's team and the engineers have a communication problem. I can also say that Cal went well on the Yamaha, which is all about corner stability and speed. His ego got the better of him thinking that his riding style could match the complete opposite style bike.
I'm thinking that it takes them at least a year to develop anything resembling confidence on the bike. After they make the mental shift they can learn to ride around some of the issues... call it the 1st year Ducati depression and then 2nd year acceptance cycle. Depressed about how bad the bike is the 1st year, accept that it's crap and have to learn how to ride it the 2nd year. |
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« Reply #24 on: August 21, 2014, 07:41:03 PM » |
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I still don't know why everyone expected Cal to dominate the Ducati. Dovi had his measure at Tech3...
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« Reply #25 on: August 21, 2014, 09:23:28 PM » |
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I still don't know why everyone expected Cal to dominate the Ducati. Dovi had his measure at Tech3...
That's what I used to say too. I think it was/is because of Cal's personality and the style of his interviews. Pretty dogone decent rider too but not Alien stuff. |
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« Reply #26 on: August 22, 2014, 07:46:39 AM » |
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I still don't know why everyone expected Cal to dominate the Ducati. Dovi had his measure at Tech3...
I think it was Stoner saying that he thought Cal's style would work for the Duc too... but then again that might have been Stoner just trying to help Cal out in getting the contract. |
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« Reply #27 on: August 22, 2014, 02:43:51 PM » |
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Based on that photo, above, Cal's bike might go faster if they took off the rain tires and put on slicks
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« Reply #28 on: August 24, 2014, 08:00:15 PM » |
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Did Rossi look back at MM right after he passed during the race or did I just make that up?
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