what kind of gas in my 696?

[red baron]

They have had the same octane recommendation for every compression ratio from 8.5:1 to 12.5:1, air cooled, water cooled, 2 valve, 4 valve, etc.  So I think it is safe to say they (Ducati) don't put much thought or testing into their octane requirement other than to tell people to use the highest octane commonly available at the pump in Europe.

These are also the same people that sent the 696 out the door with the coils wired wrong, gave up on ever making the S2R1000 run properly without installing the full Termi kit, sold thousands of bikes with flaking rockers and bad valve guides, and the list goes on.  They are humans not gods.  They take shortcuts and they make mistakes.

ouch

[herm]

^ +1 ^

[MonsterMI]

/soapbox on

OK so here's what I don't get. This guy asked a simple question, got it answered, and thanked the answerer in the first three posts. The rest was basically people complaining about opening a new thread instead of adding on to an old/existing one.

On to my question... SO WHAT? Is it really that big of a freaking deal, enough for you all to rip him for asking a pretty important question in a new post? He actually stated that he did a search and came up with nothing and even THAT wasn't good enough! This is one of the reasons that I dread coming to places like this. There is tons of good information but you have to wade through all the jackasses first to get to it. The internet builds huge e-peens and I am sick to death of it. Can't we just have a good conversation about things we care about without having to make people feel bad because you are King of the Keyboard. Good lord get a life.

/soapbox off

[jdubbs32584]

Because its common courtesy to do a THOROUGH search before posting up. There are plenty of threads about this topic. By doing a thorough search and using one thread it keeps the board uncluttered and all the information in one place/thread so its easier for others to find it.

And this place is a lot better than other places about people asking questions. Go read the thread about why the DMF is so great. You're in the minority when you say you have to wade through the jackasses.

All we ask is that you do a thorough search before posting up. Its really not that hard and like I said, its common courtesy.

[Triple J]

i dont think it matters a bit.
the discussion regarding low vs. high compression engines is still valid
the difference between euro vs. american octane ratings is still valid
the opinions expressed by members here about which octane they use is as valid as it ever has been

True.

Whats so new about the 696 engine?

Higher compression ratio than other 2V motors. Like Herm said, it's talked about in other threads. But the 696 isn't specifically talked about.

The answer could be figured out by reading and knowing the 696 compression ratio though.

[Howie]

Compression ratio is only one part of the answer.  Head design, volumetric efficiency, ignition and fuel maps all make a difference.  Even slight manufacturing variations matter.  An extra rough edge here or there and you have a built in glow plug.  A new design can make an old question relative.

[ducpainter]

Ya know people...

it takes no more time and effort to answer the question...

than it does to post up complaining about someone not doing a 'thorough' enough search...

Not everyone is an expert with search functions...

I have trouble sometimes.

In this particular case the OP did search and found nothing on the 696.

I think we should lighten up a bit.

[ryandalling]

I just got a Diamondback BMX... which fuel should I use? I find when I mix mountain bars with my high compression ratio... my wife bans me from the room... something about strange exhaust sounds and smells.... but the power bars don't seem to have a high enough octane to give me the spark I need.  

Take it easy guys... this is the web... it's more fun when people ask questions... otherwise, they could just go to the old board and read everything we already said... and there is seriously no fun in that at all.

[mrplease]

/soapbox on

OK so here's what I don't get. This guy asked a simple question, got it answered, and thanked the answerer in the first three posts. The rest was basically people complaining about opening a new thread instead of adding on to an old/existing one.

On to my question... SO WHAT? Is it really that big of a freaking deal, enough for you all to rip him for asking a pretty important question in a new post? He actually stated that he did a search and came up with nothing and even THAT wasn't good enough! This is one of the reasons that I dread coming to places like this. There is tons of good information but you have to wade through all the jackasses first to get to it. The internet builds huge e-peens and I am sick to death of it. Can't we just have a good conversation about things we care about without having to make people feel bad because you are King of the Keyboard. Good lord get a life.

/soapbox off

yeah thanks. but like you said the first guy that posted answered my question, and i thank him for that. thread closed. i really could care less about all the other posts, unless its someone being cool and posting some helpful info... i mean it is a internet forum, you kind of expect it. people like to mouth off from behind computers. now if someone talked to me like that in my face, i'd take his head off. but luckily people are halfway decent in person...

[jdubbs32584]

So its ok to have 11ty billion threads on it, and then when someone actually does a search they have to read through a bunch of individual threads just to get all the information?

A simple (SIMPLE) search on 'octane' gave up a ton of advice. It would just be nice if it was kept in one thread so those of us that do search wouldn't have to jump all over the place to find the info. I'm not saying its gonna be easy for every search. If its something obscure, than perhaps I could understand.

But I guess I need to lighten up and get a life.  



DP, if this counts as arguing with a mod, let me know and I'll delete it.

[darylbowden]

#1. The gas debate is like the oil debate (or the abortion debate for vehicles as I like to call it), it's not gonna be resolved in this thread or in any other.

#2.  Even I (a guy who works on search engines for a living) don't always use the search function and sometimes when I do, I don't get the results I'm after.  We must realize that not everyone is as familiar with the manner in which search engines works, so while 'octane' might yield a ton of threads, '696 gas recommendation' probably doesn't bring back any results.  A lot of people don't realize that by adding more words to the query, you significantly reduce the result set.

#3.  If people are quick to jump on a guy (who DID search and said as much) for posting non-original content, we come off looking like a bunch of elitists and that's no good.

That is all...

[ryandalling]

But I guess I need to lighten up and get a life.  

I thought you were trying to be more Zen and less Angry Little Leprechan? Or Should I just call you ALL for short? 

[jdubbs32584]

I thought you were trying to be more Zen and less Angry Little Leprechan? Or Should I just call you ALL for short? 

You know, I expect too much of people. I forget that not everyone is computer literate.

So much for zen.

[ryandalling]

Hell... I work on the inter-webs all damn day... and I still post without doing a thorough search... not always literacy thing... more of a slacker thing. I would agree it is better to have one thread to search through than 200 all on the same topic... but it isn't alwasy the easiest way to do things.   

[zedsaid]

If you'd just start asking questions that had already been answered anyway you wouldn't care about how easy it is to search something.

Just ask your question and receive the answer.



how many threads are there about 696 mileage?