Sargent or Corbin?

[erkishhorde]

Random side thought. If one were looking for a lower seat or better pillion section but also wanted the added storage of the Sargent, the pan can be bought alone from Sargent and then sent to Corbin to mount their seat on. It's a bit pricier than buying either one alone but it's an option if you really like the Corbin but want storage.

Also, if you're short on cash, either company will refurbish your stocker if you send them your pan. It's cheaper than buying a new seat and reduces the number of extra bits you end up with.

[pitbull]

I'm thinking of getting either the Corbin or Sargent but can't decide.. I was pretty close to choosing corbin but now knowing that it ends up lowering the seat some I have some concerns.

I'm 6'1" and ride an '07 S2R.  Can anyone comment on which of these seats would probably help/hurt me the most?  I already sometimes feel like I wish my footpegs were about a half inch lower, so I imagine a lower seat probably wouldn't do me much good.  Thoughts?

I honestly think the corbin would be hell on your knees at 6'1, unless you have a very short inseam. I'm 5'9 with a 29" inseam and my knees are screaming after 45 minutes on the corbin. I've done as much as 14 hrs on the sargent (with breaks for gas and meal stops) and the knees never ache.

[Bbrent]

Ok. I'm sold on the Sargent seat. Are there any rear cowl fitment issues with the sargent? I'm thinking of a CF cowl.

[Spidey]

Ok. I'm sold on the Sargent seat. Are there any rear cowl fitment issues with the sargent? I'm thinking of a CF cowl.

Depends what you mean by fitment.  The seat cowl may not cover the seam where the passenger part of the seat meets the rider part.  Here's an example.



I like the Sargent more than other aftermarket seats.  My main gripe is that they have "hips."  They force you to either scoot back and splay your legs or sit forward to prevent your hips from being splayed.  This might be fine for taller riders, but it sucks for shorter riders (they're still way comfier than stock).  The "hips" look like crap too.  I had my shaved off so the seat is about the same width as the cowl.  Then I had it recovered.  Now I loooooove it.  It looks better and is a million times more comfortable.

Here's the "hips" on a stock Sargeant



Here's a pics with the "hips" shaved off.

[eltristo]

Yeah, it's definitely a stretch to fit the cowl over that seat.  I tried it and decided i did not like, but I didn't consider a little custom seat-trimming 

[hypurone]

Ummm, might I suggest the DP Gel seat?  Awesome comfort for both pillion and rider. Accepts the cowl if you loosen the mounting brackets and readjust. It keeps my nads off the tank, is a tad lower and is easier to move around on than the stocker.  [moto]

Just a thought...



There are other pics here as well:

http://s239.photobucket.com/albums/ff38/hypurone/Monster%20S4RS/

[erkishhorde]

Doesn't that one get insanely hot after sitting in the sun?

[hypurone]

Doesn't that one get insanely hot after sitting in the sun?

It might, but I cover my seating area with a medium sized towel that I carry in my backpack, or my gloves and helemt if I'm not leaving the bike.

[eltristo]

It does get hot without making arrangements (such as covering it), and does not offer the height advantage of the Sargent.  I also didn't like that, with my butt in its usual position all the way back on the seat, i wasn't even on the gel pads any more. I ended up selling mine once I tried the sarge.

[donzo]

I like a low ride better so just by reading everyone's comments I'd lean toward a Corbin seat.  I was just checking out Corbin's website though and they have a note on their page that says the seat won't fit with a tail chop.  The pics on their site all show the seat with the beer tray still on the bike.  In the pics above, I notice the chopped tails.  Did you guys have any problems with fit with/without chopped tail or seat cowl?

[Jimmy Ducati]

I just bought a used DP seat for my 696, but haven't received
it yet to add any input on it, but I did find a dollar store fix for
mashed junk on the gas tank. I found a small beanbag, the
kind with the glossy, stretchy fabric. It is about 5" x 4" x 2.5".
I wedge that between my sack and the tank and BAM, no more
nut mash. I also will wear a thin pair of mountain bike shorts
if I know I will be out for a bit, and damn it works great,
especially with the beanbag in place.
I am hoping the DP seat works as well as my $3.00 bag.

[eltristo]

I just bought a used DP seat for my 696, but haven't received
it yet to add any input on it, but I did find a dollar store fix for
mashed junk on the gas tank. I found a small beanbag, the
kind with the glossy, stretchy fabric. It is about 5" x 4" x 2.5".
I wedge that between my sack and the tank and BAM, no more
nut mash. I also will wear a thin pair of mountain bike shorts
if I know I will be out for a bit, and damn it works great,
especially with the beanbag in place.
I am hoping the DP seat works as well as my $3.00 bag.

Spot on 

[tangueroHondo]

.. I wedge that between my sack and the tank and BAM, no more
nut mash.

I don't get it - Now your sack is mashing the bean bag sack which is mashing the tank.  Guess I should just buy one and figure it out. 

The right underwear is critical - boxers = rolling forward and mashing your own nuts between you and the seat.  Whatever is left over gets mashed against the tank.  Maybe I need to put the bean bag in my shorts, UNDER my sack to prop it up and prevent a roll-over.   

[Jimmy Ducati]

I don't get it - Now your sack is mashing the bean bag sack which is mashing the tank.  Guess I should just buy one and figure it out. 

The right underwear is critical - boxers = rolling forward and mashing your own nuts between you and the seat.  Whatever is left over gets mashed against the tank.  Maybe I need to put the bean bag in my shorts, UNDER my sack to prop it up and prevent a roll-over.   

I actually move it around depending on my pants/underwear combo.
The bean bag is very pliable so the pressure is minimal, certainly
85% less than not being there.
Without getting too graphic, sometimes I go with bag between junk
and the tank, but  I have also found tucking it under the sack area
works as well. I couldn't afford a seat for a while, neccessity is the
mother of invention as they say.  All I can say is it works for me.