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Author Topic: Oil Level Window mystery - Any one help?  (Read 8926 times)
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« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2008, 05:47:46 AM »


But my bike has never had it and neither has my mates Elephant - so anyone with a 2V had the problem?


there are a few threads on TOB and the new improved site - all relate to the 4v only - has to be water cooled before you'll get the condensation.

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« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2008, 08:33:50 AM »

My problem with this was in connection with cold, humid weather and short trips. (2v air cooled)

If it came from the coolant in the system I think it would be a sign of bad things going to happen?
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« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2008, 12:40:36 PM »

I've had a small amount of condensation on my Air cooled S2R 800 on a very cold wet morning after a short run to work. not as bad as that pictured.

but still easy to spot the condensation in the window, a good long ride on the way home and all was well again.


Please correct me if I'm wrong, I have vague memories of a fault on some monsters of a faulty window, they would turn white for no apparent reason, it looked very similar to condensation. The glass had to be replaced.
Is that true? Or my memory cells not working correctly again?
 
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« Reply #18 on: August 31, 2008, 02:24:19 PM »

cold? in cairns? mate, are you sure? Grin
and yes, it will happen with air cooled motors as well. Undecided


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« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2008, 02:40:35 PM »

I have had it in the Duc and also noticed it on my dirt bike, I decent ride fixes it every time. It can not be the coolant mixed with the oil (head gasket) as you can definately see the clean oil behind it.
Keep an eye on it but I would not be too concerned.
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« Reply #20 on: August 31, 2008, 02:42:25 PM »

The small amount I saw on mine (S2R 800) as described above was no where near as much as you can see Bret .... and I have only noticed it the once.
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« Reply #21 on: August 31, 2008, 03:26:32 PM »

I must admit I do a lot of shortish runs - 30 minutes maximum and the bike hasnt been getting very warm.  I have been too kind to my neighbours and havent been sitting in my driveway at 7 am on Saturday and Sunday mornings waiting for the Monster to warm up too much.  As soon as the low temp indicator goes I take off.  I reckon I am going to have to sit there a lot longer and make sure it gets really warm.  Cant really remember it getting much over 75degrees the last few rides.  It has been bloody cold in Adelaide recently.

So maybe I need to run it a lot longer and get it a lot warmer.  A couple of people have suggested I take the oil filler cap off once it is warm, sounds like another good idea.

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« Reply #22 on: August 31, 2008, 03:37:54 PM »

I stand corrected oh 2 valve sufferers!

I've done some runs in some really cold temperatures (low single digits) and never had a problem.

Paul, I remember when I lived on the gold coast we used to consider anything less than 15 degrees to be 'freezing', anything less than 10 and you told your family members you loved them before heading outside or to bed - because we thought we might perish!  Smiley
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« Reply #23 on: August 31, 2008, 03:56:07 PM »

I am hoping it is a combination of cool moist ambient temperature, short runs and the rider not warming the bike up and not using enough throttle.  I do ride it a little easy!!!  Thought I was going ok but when the grandma passed me on the inside of a turn on a scooter I knew something about my riding was wrong.....

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« Reply #24 on: August 31, 2008, 03:59:13 PM »

Hey Brett, it looks exactly like the oil window of my S4Rt.  I have only been commuting on it for the last month or so, and have'nt had a chance to take it for a good fang lately. My bike is running fine as well, and the coolant level hasn't moved since I got it, so I'm not too worried. I just got to ride it harder  waytogo
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« Reply #25 on: August 31, 2008, 04:33:40 PM »

Hey Brett, it looks exactly like the oil window of my S4Rt.  I have only been commuting on it for the last month or so, and have'nt had a chance to take it for a good fang lately. My bike is running fine as well, and the coolant level hasn't moved since I got it, so I'm not too worried. I just got to ride it harder  waytogo

I'm here for you mate!  waytogo where re we going? WHEN are we going?
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« Reply #26 on: August 31, 2008, 08:58:10 PM »

I must admit I do a lot of shortish runs - 30 minutes maximum and the bike hasnt been getting very warm.  I have been too kind to my neighbours and havent been sitting in my driveway at 7 am on Saturday and Sunday mornings waiting for the Monster to warm up too much.  As soon as the low temp indicator goes I take off.  I reckon I am going to have to sit there a lot longer and make sure it gets really warm.  Cant really remember it getting much over 75degrees the last few rides.  It has been bloody cold in Adelaide recently.

So maybe I need to run it a lot longer and get it a lot warmer.  A couple of people have suggested I take the oil filler cap off once it is warm, sounds like another good idea.

Thanks.


Bret







if you do take the filler cap off when you arrive to let moisture escape, make sure you either put the cap somewhere really obvious or take some tape and tape over your ignition as a reminder. oil will escape from the filler hole easily and it will get on the tyre!!!


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« Reply #27 on: August 31, 2008, 11:28:35 PM »

Well sort of on topic..... the filler cap is made of plastic and seems quite flimsy.... and it is on bloody tight I might add... Unless I am trying to unscrew it in the wrong direction..  MMM.. Italians dont screw things the wrong way do they!!  LOL..

The real question re: the filler cap is can you buy the anodised billet ones in Australia?  I would like a red anodised one if I can locate in Australia at the right price or am I best to get one off ebay via the US?

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« Reply #28 on: September 01, 2008, 12:44:27 AM »

vee two in perth make them, but e-bay will probably work out the cheapest.
here you go,
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DUCATI-748-916-996-998-SS-MONSTER-OIL-FILLER-BILLET-CAP_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em122QQcategoryZ35618QQihZ001QQitemZ110284583549QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWD2V

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« Reply #29 on: September 01, 2008, 02:01:19 AM »

I'm no expert but I can confirm that my air-cooled 2v (695) has shown the same symptoms on two occasions - both on very cold Canberra mornings, combined with short trips and quick warm ups.  Went away after a decent long ride and doesn't seem to have had any enduring effects.
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