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« on: August 31, 2008, 05:21:20 PM »

any thoughts on why the hell he was pushing so hard when he was 3 seconds in front and still couldn't gain any ground on vale?
i wish he hadn't fallen, it would've made for a heaps better race, and in my opinion kept him in contention for the title.
what do you guys think? does he still have a chance?
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« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2008, 06:06:27 PM »

nah he's boned it now. Had a shot if the bike was better set up on that max lean angle issue for the last 2 races, but now he is too far behind to contend for 1st unless vale crashes and injures himself. Sad

vermulen had a decent race though which was good.
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« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2008, 06:51:19 PM »

SPOILER ALERT......(too late but...)



he's out now.

you think it's got to do with the wrist injury?

I mean he was doing 5 lap stints and then resting it....and then lost it on lap 8.

Far out those first few laps are just amazing though - the 3 second gap so quickly was amazing.

He even looked graceful low-siding.

tough to wait until 12 o'clock and then have then get to see 8 minutes of action!
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« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2008, 07:22:26 PM »

Greg norman=Casey stoner, a good australian comparison. Choker's always fail in a crunch  Shocked
pressure's a pregnant dog, I don't think stoner would of liked to get in a situation like laguna where he had to fight and possibly lose against rossi head to head again
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« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2008, 08:34:17 PM »

too bad if someone hadn't actually watched the race yet!!!  bang head discussing it is fine, but the title gives the game away don't you think? maybe something like "moto gp" and "SPOILER" would have been more appropriate? Angry


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« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2008, 09:30:31 PM »

Agreed Paul.
As for Casey, I guess when you want to remain #1 pressure gets to people.
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« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2008, 11:00:23 PM »

any thoughts on why the hell he was pushing so hard when he was 3 seconds in front and still couldn't gain any ground on vale?
i wish he hadn't fallen, it would've made for a heaps better race, and in my opinion kept him in contention for the title.
what do you guys think? does he still have a chance?
yer its rosie  favorite track, plus the bridgestones  dont larst
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« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2008, 01:10:44 AM »

i think rossi is gay.think about it ..never has a girlfriend at post race celebrations.its always that luccio guy.
his dad who himself was a world champion ..never at his side.his private life very secret..wlf on his leathers well thats just a curve ball to get all hetero italians on his side...hmmm much as i follow him as a world champion.hmmm luccio.....
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« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2008, 01:59:26 AM »

i think rossi is gay.think about it ..never has a girlfriend at post race celebrations.its always that luccio guy.
his dad who himself was a world champion ..never at his side.his private life very secret..wlf on his leathers well thats just a curve ball to get all hetero italians on his side...hmmm much as i follow him as a world champion.hmmm luccio.....
gay or not he has psyched out casey and made him his pregnant dog!!
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« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2008, 02:07:56 AM »

Truly disappointing weekend... Casey crashes, Wallabies flogged, the Raiders knocked over... and my ride is washed out on Sunday.  You've got to give to Rossi, though. Someone is smiling on him.
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« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2008, 02:42:12 AM »

too bad if someone hadn't actually watched the race yet!!!  bang head discussing it is fine, but the title gives the game away don't you think? maybe something like "moto gp" and "SPOILER" would have been more appropriate? Angry


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« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2008, 02:45:06 AM »

The official word from Casey on Ducati.com

"It is very disappointing for the weekend to end like this after showing such a high level of performance in practice. Basically we took the decision to put one lap on the race tyre in warm-up this morning to get it scrubbed in: we've done it before and not had a problem but today I could feel from the first lap that the grip wasn't right. After a few laps it started to feel better and I was gaining confidence but it let go. It's a real shame but, anyway, we tried hard here and once again I think we've shown we are very fast, we have a great bike and tyres that work fantastically. This gives me confidence for next year and I'm looking forward to it already. As for the injury, it's huge disappointment this problem came out but I'll have to wait until the end of the season for an operation."

Limited scrub on a new race tyre, bet they won't do that again...
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« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2008, 04:35:36 PM »

+1 on the spolier.

However good point raised non the less.

I think its combination of factors that have Casey & Rossi where they are...

a) both guys are on Bridgestone rubber, it's fair to say that they are on the pick to the lot... which is good for them but bad for competition... so the two run away easier.
b) Yamaha have spent alot of time/money getting their set-up right to suit Vale
c) Ducati have spent time and money to try and control a bucking bronco, all 4 ducati riders have commented on the animal that the ducati is. So development is fixing a problem, rather than makeing a bike & rider improve. There is a slight difference there.
d) There has been a Yamaha on the podium every race! Yamahas have filled the top10 finishers at every race, meaning their bike development is much faster than Ducati's.
e) Stoner and Ducati are really making it fast for 1 rider but from data from only 1 rider... = slower development
f) Casey has no support... there is a reason why teams have more than 1 rider as you need help for not just bike developent, but in race strategy. Last year Loris did a much better job than any of the other Duc riders this year.
g) following from f) the opposite is true from the Yamah squad. Rossi has plenty of help and Yamaha have plenty of skilled riders...
h) If Stoners is indeed injured then this is going to affect him both physically and mentally. Rossi has been injury free for some time now. Also the Yamaha requires less physicall effort than the Ducati, so in any given race the Duc riders are having to work that much harder, some times it pays off, sometimes it doesn't.

ok... enough blah blah  Tongue Grin - Chris
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« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2008, 11:01:17 PM »

my sincerest apologies for the spoiler..Embarrassed Embarrassed i didn't realise no-one would have not watched it..

tough to wait until 12 o'clock and then have then get to see 8 minutes of action!
don't you have HD spider? cos most of the time they show it 2 hours before standard definition. it looks so much cleaner too.
plus i think rossi is not gay. just read the italian tabloids around their summer, they're always on about how he boats off on his yacht with a girl or two.
but definitely agree on the fact he needs a lot more experience, as this would help lessen his nervousness.
now if only i could see rossi on the ducati...sigh Roll Eyes
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« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2008, 01:00:36 AM »

fellas, i would read to much into stoner falling over lately.... rossi has done the same and worse... he didnt in the championship race when all eh had to do was finish ahead of Hayden... shit just happens.

the good news is that Stoner is just 22. Rossi 29. remember wot u were like at 22? this year might be over, good news is that it will set up a ripper 2009.

other news, Pedrosa ditched Michelin and is now on Bridgestone. Hopefully the 3 of them get have some real battles with little pressure for the rest of the season.

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