PODS S2R800

[Rickoz]

Hi guys
In the past i've asked about putting pods on to a Ducati S2R800 & some time has gone by now & i have still not done this but before i do I've have one or two questions.
If you speak to motorcycle mechanics they say do not do this unless they fit a PCIII or sim & get it dynoed/tune correctly or it will damage the motor burn the head or valves ect yet you go to say the TPO sit & they say no need for any of this.
anyway,
my question is for the guys who have done this what did you end up doing & any long term damage done just by adding the pods & no PCII ect?
Rickoz

[sydmonster]

Rick, your likely to hear this from most tuning shops as their covering themselves, incase the pods do cause a lean situation.
 Every engine is a little different, some may lean out and overheat, some may not. The shop owner can't take that chance on this, hence they recommend the extra items. (Plus the makes more money on the sale. )
 Some EFi Duke owners report no ill problems by just having pods, some also have fitted a tunable ECU of somesort to try and make the most out of it. I fitted pods, but do acknowledge my bike would benefit with re-tune (even though its carbed, its still something to look at).
 Pods alone will do nothing for performance, combined with a full exhaust and an ECU will get the best out of your engine, in my opinion. - Chris

[pigmy]

rick,i went  with the pods and put a pc111 on.coupled  this with a dynotune at flywheels and never looked back.i know i have the bike running at optimum
performance without worrying about burning a valve so to speak.however,mine is a s4.if you have after market exhausts and couple them with pods you probably will
get backfiring once you let go of throttle.not so bad but if you get backfiring  on say acceleration then thats no good.it will pay to get it dynotuned either way.take it from
a guy who does things the hard way.

[brimo]

My S2r 800 leaned out with open box and standard exhaust with cored mufflers, I did go the PCIII (but then I got it for a bargain price), it did make a big difference to overall performance and it's there for future exhaust changes, if needed.
BTW I have been thinking about going to pods as I find the open airbox a bit too loud as it seems to direct all the noise up toward the rider.

[Betty]

Rick, I am far from an expert on these things but I had read a bit about this on TOB when I was considering changing my exhaust. In the end I decided the cost/risk/benefit equation was not to my liking. So I changed the exhaust but not the air intake - the general concensus being that this would cause no problems (and I haven't experienced any, but I don't ride hard either).

Increasing the amount of air entering the system seems to be the most likely source of problems.

Ideally doing the exhaust, intake and tune at the same time should avoid any problems .... and despite what TPO say on their website I undersatnd that the standard ECU only has limited adjustability hence the frequent recommendation of something such as a PC, etc. to avoid stuffing everything up.

It is all this which has people suggesting the DP system (with filter, ECU & exhausts) isn't such bad value for money when compared to any other exhaust/intake/PC/tune alternative which all need to be trained to work together. Of course it could all be a load of shit like most things I say.

[tricolore]

Rick, I am far from an expert on these things but I had read a bit about this on TOB when I was considering changing my exhaust. In the end I decided the cost/risk/benefit equation was not to my liking. So I changed the exhaust but not the air intake - the general concensus being that this would cause no problems (and I haven't experienced any, but I don't ride hard either).

Increasing the amount of air entering the system seems to be the most likely source of problems.

Ideally doing the exhaust, intake and tune at the same time should avoid any problems .... and despite what TPO say on their website I undersatnd that the standard ECU only has limited adjustability hence the frequent recommendation of something such as a PC, etc. to avoid stuffing everything up.

It is all this which has people suggesting the DP system (with filter, ECU & exhausts) isn't such bad value for money when compared to any other exhaust/intake/PC/tune alternative which all need to be trained to work together. Of course it could all be a load of shit like most things I say.

Thats why I decided to go with DP, seems to be more expensive upfront, but I know it works. I am not the type to tinker and retune etc etc, I decided to save the coin and use the systen I know works, not heresay. Shop around, you will find a bargain if you are patient.