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DosVerde
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Re: Tyres, tyres, tyres
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November 04, 2008, 03:28:15 AM »
Quote from: heatherp on November 04, 2008, 12:52:38 AM
Hiya Dos
Ha ha you're little edit making me go blind! I used to get 10k rear and 20k front from Bridgy's on mine, but it was a 750 and that was in WA and I always used to fume about not wearing out the edges. Bridegestone make a battlax sport/tourer for my bike - might give it a go. Wondering what it will be like not changing the front tho. How exy$ are Diablos?
Hey I rode up to Hall's Gap today and rode home via Zumsteins. Ah life is hard.
The Bridgestones would probably be silimar in price, don't most tyres go for around the $190 front - $290 rear? I can't remember, I paid $100 for my last BT015 after it did 3 laps of P.I. on a Gixxer thou.
You should be OK with your current front if it's still go a bit of life left in it. It will feel a lot different simply from having a new rear so you probably wouldn't notice the front. Track day guys and street racers talking about matching front and rear, should be fine for us normal riders.
That ride woulda been nice today. what a life...... Which road did you take from Zumstiens to Hamilton? I was trying to work out which way to go - but from the other direction - Hamilton to Zumstiens.
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Re: Tyres, tyres, tyres
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November 04, 2008, 04:25:38 AM »
Quote from: DosVerde on November 04, 2008, 03:28:15 AM
The Bridgestones would probably be silimar in price, don't most tyres go for around the $190 front - $290 rear? I can't remember, I paid $100 for my last BT015 after it did 3 laps of P.I. on a Gixxer thou.
You should be OK with your current front if it's still go a bit of life left in it. It will feel a lot different simply from having a new rear so you probably wouldn't notice the front. Track day guys and street racers talking about matching front and rear, should be fine for us normal riders.
That ride woulda been nice today. what a life...... Which road did you take from Zumstiens to Hamilton? I was trying to work out which way to go - but from the other direction - Hamilton to Zumstiens.
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I came home along the Henty Hwy (yawn) because I had to get home for an appointment. Best way is from Hamilton towards Dunkeld up thru Victoria Valley into southern gramps. Thru Halls Gap. Down to Zumsteins, stop at the carpark at the bottom then go back the way you came. ie up Zumsteins to Halls Gap then on to either Dunkeld or Victoria Valley. Vic Valley roads are very narrow farm roads and twisties going up into the Gramps with very little tourist traffic.
Next time you want to do it wait till I'm on days off and I'll show you.
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November 04, 2008, 12:36:00 PM »
Can we sticky this because this comes up ALL THE TIME!
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November 04, 2008, 02:32:00 PM »
Quote from: Super T.I.B on November 04, 2008, 12:36:00 PM
Can we sticky this because this comes up ALL THE TIME!
Was looking into this the other day... and the other week.. and the other month.
Corsa IIIs are the std tyres fitted on my HM, which overall seem pretty cool, but travelled 4000km and tread is nearly gone.
My local tyre guy was telling me bout the new Rossos too, which I was quoted as cheaper than cIIIs here in .au but apparently more expensive than cIII in .us.
Found a nice review of the Rosso tyre at
http://www.r1-forum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=224932
The gist is, cIIIs are street tyres catered for those who find themselves fanging their bikes on the track frequently.
Rossos are brand new tyre with new tech, and designed specifically for street use. Apparently very good in all conditions and nearly as good as cIIIs, but not that much cheaper to cIIIs.
Unknown how they compare to the PPs.
Don't really have much experience with tyre choices, but if tyre life is more important without sacrificing performance, the Diablo Scorpion Syncs (dual-sport, aggressive tread) are something I'd recommend. That said though, the Syncs were on my Multistrada.
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Re: Tyres, tyres, tyres
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November 04, 2008, 11:36:05 PM »
Quote from: Super T.I.B on November 04, 2008, 12:36:00 PM
Can we sticky this because this comes up ALL THE TIME!
Yes can we please sticky this so we don't have to go looking for it every time one of us needs a new tyre?
Who we gotta talk to?
Okay after copious research this is what I'm gonna do:
Because my front Corsa III still has a lot of life in it I am going to fit a Diablo Rosso to the rear to see what it's like.
Then when I have to fit both front and rear I will give the BT014 a go.
Then I think I may just try some Metzlers just cos I can.
Tyre choice is such a personal thing and I won't know what I like until I try them all.
So thanks everyone for the input and I'll let you know what I think about the tyres I'm using.
Oops, I have to correct my previous comment about the Piltot road too. Looking back I actually got 11 000kms out of it! Must have been riding like a nanna
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Re: Tyres, tyres, tyres
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November 05, 2008, 07:15:26 PM »
Quote from: heatherp on November 04, 2008, 11:36:05 PM
Oops, I have to correct my previous comment about the Piltot road too. Looking back I actually got 11 000kms out of it! Must have been riding like a nanna
I knew a bloke that use to get 20,000+ out of his tyres, but he accelerated like a loaded truck.
Quote from: heatherp on November 04, 2008, 11:36:05 PM
Yes can we please sticky this so we don't have to go looking for it every time one of us needs a new tyre?
Who we gotta talk to?
Yep sounds good, Ian, hey, paging BIG IAN... whats the chance of a sticky??
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Re: Tyres, tyres, tyres
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November 05, 2008, 07:22:51 PM »
Quote from: madalf71 on November 04, 2008, 01:28:19 AM
Hi Heather.
Bridgestone BT014 here, so far so good 7500klms, reckon they'll go to 10k klms.
even mix of metro,highway and twisties.
I've been running the BT014/BT020 front/rear combo for a while now, I get almost 20,000km out of them on my 750, and they still grip well enough to touch down hard bits in corners.
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November 07, 2008, 01:00:33 AM »
Quote from: bigiain on November 05, 2008, 07:22:51 PM
I've been running the BT014/BT020 front/rear combo for a while now, I get almost 20,000km out of them on my 750, and they still grip well enough to touch down hard bits in corners.
big
Big,
What's the secret to getting 20k out of a rear tyre. Are they still legal by the time you change them? Cmon you can tell us.
I've never even come close even in West Oz where there are only straight roads. And I'm not a hoon (well wasn't till I bought the Monster!).
And do we ask you to make this a sticky? huh? pleeeeeese.
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November 07, 2008, 01:49:37 AM »
Quote from: heatherp on November 07, 2008, 01:00:33 AM
Big,
What's the secret to getting 20k out of a rear tyre. Are they still legal by the time you change them? Cmon you can tell us.
I've never even come close even in West Oz where there are only straight roads. And I'm not a hoon (well wasn't till I bought the Monster!).
And do we ask you to make this a sticky? huh? pleeeeeese.
From what i have seen in Big's riding style he is as smooth a silk on the gass and the corners he may have some other secrets but just my 2c ,BIG AL is just as smooth and again gets high K's out of his tyres.Me rough as guts on the gass and am lucky to get 4K on my tyres.
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Re: Tyres, tyres, tyres
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November 07, 2008, 04:42:33 AM »
Quote from: heatherp on November 07, 2008, 01:00:33 AM
Big,
What's the secret to getting 20k out of a rear tyre. Are they still legal by the time you change them? Cmon you can tell us.
They're rarely "legal" at 20,000km, but there's _mostly_ still _some_ tread left - I'm usually getting a bit cautious in the wet by then - I'm still usually "legal" well past 18,000km though...
The "secret" is to understand that a Monster will go thru 2 or 3 fronts to every rear if you use the same compound rubber at both ends - so I go for "sports" rubber on the front, and "sports touring" rubber on the rear.
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November 07, 2008, 10:57:56 PM »
Quote from: bigiain on November 07, 2008, 04:42:33 AM
The "secret" is to understand that a Monster will go thru 2 or 3 fronts to every rear if you use the same compound rubber at both ends - so I go for "sports" rubber on the front, and "sports touring" rubber on the rear.
big
Me too!!
Knowing that there is not a lot of weight on the front gives you the opportunity to do what Ian said, sports rubber up front, whatever on the back. When I get my tyres fitted by Whites Racing, I always ask what the 250 proddie guys are using up front, go with that and it works out that the sides on the front are gone when the middle is gone on the rear.
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November 08, 2008, 01:46:38 AM »
Quote from: bigiain on November 07, 2008, 04:42:33 AM
snippy ...
The "secret" is to understand that a Monster will go thru 2 or 3 fronts to every rear if you use the same compound rubber at both ends
Huh?
Would have thought two rears to every front on the same compound? .... My Monster don't know this secret.
With regard to the sticky, good idea but there are probably a few threads on this subject in Ozmo-land alone ... would be better to have them all come together ... if possible?
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November 08, 2008, 02:37:07 AM »
Quote from: Betty on November 08, 2008, 01:46:38 AM
Huh?
Would have thought two rears to every front on the same compound? .... My Monster don't know this secret.
Gah, you're right of course, I got that arse about...
"2 or 3 rears for every front" is what I _meant_ to type...
big (I notice Mick picked up on exactly what I meant, instaed of what I said, perhaps we're drinking the same beer at the moment?
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November 08, 2008, 02:42:52 AM »
Glad that got cleared up. I was hoping you meant it tother way round otherwise I'm definitely doing something wrong.
Sounds interesting re: front tyre choice so I'll be giving it a go next time I change the front.
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November 08, 2008, 11:19:10 PM »
Quote from: bigiain on November 08, 2008, 02:37:07 AM
Gah, you're right of course, I got that arse about...
"2 or 3 rears for every front" is what I _meant_ to type...
big (I notice Mick picked up on exactly what I meant, instaed of what I said, perhaps we're drinking the same beer at the moment?
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Er,, yep, thats what I ment.
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