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MonsterDorf
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September 03, 2008, 01:01:17 AM »
OK, have been running Diablo's for a while now and haven't had a problem with them, but always looking to improve. What do people think about the Pirelli Diablo Rosso?
http://www.pirellityre.com/web/catalog/ProductPdf?product_uri=/pirellityre/en_IT/browser/xml/catalog/moto/MOTO_MV_DIABLOROSSO.xml&vehicle_type=moto&product_name=DIABLO_ROSSO_
Anyone using?
My son is riding on a set of Dunlop qualifiers which he loves, any feedback?
http://www.dunlopmotorcycle.com/tirecatalog_tire.asp?id=92
Don't try to convince me of Pilot Powers as I don't like their cold performance or how non linear they roll into corners - rubbish I say.
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September 03, 2008, 01:24:00 AM »
Mick you can't say that until you ride them on a Monster and in a 120/70 front.
I went from Diablo's to them and think they are head/shoulders and torso above the Pirelli.
I was never confident on the Pirelli, always felt like they never really warmed up.
You'll find most of the people here ride PP or something from the French company.
Although I know Vince and Mmick are on Corsa Pro's
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September 03, 2008, 01:32:45 AM »
i run pilot power, but i agree the tip in of the front is vague at the best of times,
so i now run a power race on the front and the grip is sensational!!! the rounder profile feels much more confidence inspiring and it tips in predictably and quickly. give a power race front and power rear a go. you will be sold, and you get the added luxury of replacing two worn out tyres at the same time!!
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I knew I'd get a "bite" if I bagged out the PP
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September 03, 2008, 01:56:53 AM »
I totally agree, the PP are a great tire and will give you the confidence you are looking for, They will hold you up in the corners and warn you when the edge of the tire is coming . I use Pirelli Dragon Super Corsa Pro. I must admit when I made the change I was discussed, But after having them for a few months I aint going back. Just one thing not so good on the HWY they flat spot very fast..
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September 03, 2008, 02:56:11 AM »
I've had std diablos on the monster 120/70 on the front.
I then changed to PP 120/60 on the front and a pilot road on the rear.
I shagged the front and replaced it with a PP 120/70, and left the road on the rear - it's pretty squared from the PI trip earlier in the year, but still plenty of tread and I'm a tight arse!
When these are gone, time for another change. Maybe back to pirelli, maybe something else.
FWIW, the real difference for me was to go back to a 120/70 profile. Yes the PP seems to have more of an "A" profile rather than a rounded one, and I thought that the profile was more the issue ( never felt as confident on the PP as with the pirelli) . Now that I have changed back to a 70 profile I'm liking it much more.
All in all, for the riding that I do, I really don't think that I'm pushing the capabilities of either the diablo or the michelins, and I'm guessing that I'm not alone.
For you Sydney people who have been out of DMF rides with mmick or bigiain, ask either of them what they rubber theyve been shod with in recent years. I've seen all types of interesting
rubber on mmicks bike, and I'm sure that big is on bridgestone sports tourer tyres (and a 110 / 150 front /rear combination). Two of the quickest riders in the group with less that "sports" tyres.
For me, I'm thinking that my riding ability needs to improve a shiteload before I'm going to get to the limit of any modern day reputable brand touring tyre, let alone a sticky sports version!
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September 03, 2008, 03:57:45 AM »
Tyres are such a personal thing its hard to take anyone elses advice. It all depends on how you ride and where.
Look hard enough and you'll find fans and critics of all brands and types.
I don't see the need for anything too sporty because its hardly going to get enough temperature in it where I live. For what its worth, I'm running Michy pilot roads front and rear. I've only had them on for 1,000km or so and feel good with them.
Any new tyres will feel great if your used to riding on shagged ones.
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Quote from: techno on September 03, 2008, 03:57:45 AM
Any new tyres will feel great if your used to riding on shagged ones.
+1. there's certainly truth in that
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Quote from: MonsterDorf on September 03, 2008, 01:01:17 AM
OK, have been running Diablo's for a while now and haven't had a problem with them, but always looking to improve.
Er... take some riding lessons, not trying to be rude or anything but even our standard street tyre will work really well (exemption - shinko!!) unless its a really hot day and you are getting stuck into it. Todays tyres are really, really good, so any top brand that suits your riding style will work.
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September 07, 2008, 02:32:42 AM »
Love my Pilot sports, nice progressive sliding out of roundabouts (Heh, unplanned but was great fun
) but thinking of maybe trying the new Bridgies next. [moto]
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November 04, 2008, 12:25:32 AM »
Okay I'm up for a new back tyre. Turismo has completely wrecked my Corsa 3 after only 6000kms. And I just know someone's gonna say I'm lucky to get that much out of it.
So I'm looking for something different. Have had pilot roads before but didn't get many kms out of them either. Having said that I'm comparing to getting 10 000kms from a previous bike (Kawasaki Zephyr). I need a touring tyre as I do at least 15 000kms a year and am not rich.
Has anyone tried Bridgestones? And which ones? I used to run Bridgestone Battleax on my last bike and liked them. My front (also a Corsa) is still okay so won't be changing that just yet.
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November 04, 2008, 12:41:21 AM »
I used to run Bridgy's on my Kwaka ('04 Z1000) , BT 014/015's .... got about 8k from the rear 12k on the front, I liked them.
I also like the std Pirelli Diablo's I'm running on the S4R. I guess i"m not pushing them to the max, and I don't do ride days, they're sticky enough for me
edit: that info (or lack there of) doesn't help you does it?
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Quote from: DosVerde on November 04, 2008, 12:41:21 AM
I used to run Bridgy's on my Kwaka ('04 Z1000) , BT 014/015's .... got about 8k from the rear 12k on the front, I liked them.
I also like the std Pirelli Diablo's I'm running on the S4R. I guess i"m not pushing them to the max, and I don't do ride days, they're sticky enough for me
edit: that info (or lack there of) doesn't help you does it?
Hiya Dos
Ha ha you're little edit making me go blind! I used to get 10k rear and 20k front from Bridgy's on mine, but it was a 750 and that was in WA and I always used to fume about not wearing out the edges. Bridegestone make a battlax sport/tourer for my bike - might give it a go. Wondering what it will be like not changing the front tho. How exy$ are Diablos?
Hey I rode up to Hall's Gap today and rode home via Zumsteins. Ah life is hard.
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November 04, 2008, 01:28:19 AM »
Hi Heather.
Bridgestone BT014 here, so far so good 7500klms, reckon they'll go to 10k klms.
even mix of metro,highway and twisties.
Cheers.
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November 04, 2008, 02:40:48 AM »
Heather,
I had the bridgies (battlax) as the original tyres on my 620 sport (note - its a supersport type ducati, not a monster). It comes with the 120/70 front as std. Found them to be great, but I am not a good enough rider the challenge any tyre. Got about 9,000km out of them, front and rear.
I have pilot roads at the moment, and really like them too. I think its a new tyre thing tho. Cheers, ducsport (Ty)
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