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Raux
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Re: A semi-official 696 exhaust thread.
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Reply #105 on:
March 15, 2009, 12:30:11 AM »
someone really needs to get on a dyno with the Termis. this debate will always loom without it. my personal (SHORT) experience with the termi is that it does give a different feel to the torque of the bike below 6k. maybe it flattens the torque curve or something. only a dyno can show that.
BUT it does change (or is supposed to) your RPM limit. that should give a bike higher top end and maybe even change your riding style for hardrides/tracks.
I know that my exhausts with the juice box plus a free flow (when i get them) hopefully will give me 10%. Two brothers is giving 7% for their juice box and exhausts alone.
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Re: A semi-official 696 exhaust thread.
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Reply #106 on:
March 15, 2009, 03:33:14 AM »
I think people are expecting too much from these Termi's and others. Manufacturers tend to "brighten up" those figures just for the cause of sales, and I think myself that any exhaust system that would give a greater than 5% effect on power would be almost unreal.
It also depends where they measure the power - it's different on the tyre than on the motor withouth drivetrain taking it's toll on the way to the tyre.
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Re: A semi-official 696 exhaust thread.
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Reply #107 on:
March 15, 2009, 04:08:21 AM »
well on the 696, the termi kit is a full intake/exhaust free flow kit with a changed engine map and higher rpm limiter. i would expect performance increases with that, not just a sound improvement.
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Re: A semi-official 696 exhaust thread.
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Reply #108 on:
March 15, 2009, 08:24:11 AM »
True, and that's why there seems to be a lot of people who bought the Termi kit (btw here in Finland it's about 1500 - 2200 USD bought from the dealer) and then thought to theirselves "I paid all that money and this is what I get?"
Don't get me wrong, I like the Termis sound and looks but still think that it's a bit high priced product. Still having said that I'm pondering between them and a K&N airfilter, Mivv GP's and a case of installation beer for the weekend. Hmm....
I've seen some dyno charts by Mivv and if I were to believe those the bike would gallop like a 1000cc after slip-ons
The real difference is the price and the missing ECU from the DIY -pack.
Oh and for comparison, Monster 696+ (or "Kit" here) is priced moderately here: only 18500 USD from the store
I heard theyre a lot cheaper there.
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Raux
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Re: A semi-official 696 exhaust thread.
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Reply #109 on:
March 15, 2009, 08:41:03 AM »
well i wonder again about the dyno charts of say stock vs slipons vs termi kit vs PC V.
yeah $8995 sticker price in the states.
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Re: A semi-official 696 exhaust thread.
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March 15, 2009, 03:27:51 PM »
Quote from: Raux on March 15, 2009, 04:08:21 AM
well on the 696, the termi kit is a full intake/exhaust free flow kit with a changed engine map and higher rpm limiter.
i would expect performance increases with that,
not just a sound improvement.
Expect away
All I can tell you is what I actually feel after making the swap [moto] You perhaps ride harder than me, so if you ride it to the rev-limiter then yup, you will be able to wring it's neck a little harder at the top of the range.
I have a question for those of you who have already fitted CF Termis:
Since fitting my Termis I have noticed that on starting from cold and during the its-warming-up-whilst-I-get-my-gear-on period that theres light white smoke - nah to call it smoke is overstating it.... more like hot breath on a cold morning - coming from just the left side Termi.... Goes away as soon as the bike's warm and the bike runs fine. If it was just the usual "hot-breath" as the cold engine warms up ought it not be seen equally from both cans as it did when the standard cans were on?
Thanks Guys...
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Re: A semi-official 696 exhaust thread.
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Reply #111 on:
March 15, 2009, 03:50:46 PM »
i notice more exhuast on the left anyways, i think its just the pipe setup leading up to the cans
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Re: A semi-official 696 exhaust thread.
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Reply #112 on:
March 15, 2009, 05:18:07 PM »
Quote from: ungeheuer on March 15, 2009, 03:27:51 PM
Expect away
All I can tell you is what I actually feel after making the swap [moto] You perhaps ride harder than me, so if you ride it to the rev-limiter then yup, you will be able to wring it's neck a little harder at the top of the range.
I have a question for those of you who have already fitted CF Termis:
Since fitting my Termis I have noticed that on starting from cold and during the its-warming-up-whilst-I-get-my-gear-on period that theres light white smoke - nah to call it smoke is overstating it.... more like hot breath on a cold morning - coming from just the left side Termi.... Goes away as soon as the bike's warm and the bike runs fine. If it was just the usual "hot-breath" as the cold engine warms up ought it not be seen equally from both cans as it did when the standard cans were on?
Thanks Guys...
I've noticed the same for the whole 8 months I've had my bike. Not a problem as far as I know.
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Re: A semi-official 696 exhaust thread.
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Reply #113 on:
March 15, 2009, 08:23:46 PM »
Thanks guys. I wasn't real worried, but its nice to know its nothing out of the ordinary
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Re: A semi-official 696 exhaust thread.
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Reply #114 on:
March 15, 2009, 08:50:25 PM »
gt78fin: Uh, and I thought mine was expensive for 17100 USD. I am also undecided between the CF Termis and the MIVV GP's. For looks and price I would definitely prefer the MIVV's - if only I could make sure the bike remains rideable 2 up without major burns from the bent steel pipes... anyone with the MIVV's out there? MIVV's customer service was not able to give a convincing answer
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Re: A semi-official 696 exhaust thread.
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Reply #115 on:
March 16, 2009, 11:35:45 PM »
More clips I found on Youtube. But I'm sure you guys have seen them already..
Ajko
Monster 696 con scarico Ajko (NewMonsterClub.com) [PARTE 3 (SOUND)]
Ex Box
ex box monster 696
Another Quat D vid
Ducati Monster 696 mit QuatD
Arrow
monster 696 con arrow
Leo Vinci
DUCATI MONSTER 696 LEO VINCE
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Re: A semi-official 696 exhaust thread.
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Reply #116 on:
March 17, 2009, 01:31:41 AM »
I've had these on for the past three days. Except for the flimsy exhaust clamps these pipes are my favorite.
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Re: A semi-official 696 exhaust thread.
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Reply #117 on:
March 17, 2009, 02:51:23 AM »
Quote from: T. Rush on March 17, 2009, 01:31:41 AM
I've had these on for the past three days. Except for the flimsy exhaust clamps these pipes are my favorite.
they look great. I am installing termis this week on my 696, and im definitely sold on them, but the more i look at straight slip on rather than conical i'm liking them more and more. nice bike Rush
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Re: A semi-official 696 exhaust thread.
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Reply #118 on:
March 28, 2009, 03:42:33 AM »
I knew this at one point but I can't seem to retrieve any info; can someone tell me what is the rev limit with the "Racing" ECU that comes with the DP CF slip on kit? Or better yet, where I can go to retrieve said info.
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Re: A semi-official 696 exhaust thread.
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Reply #119 on:
March 28, 2009, 08:02:40 AM »
I've been told the DP ECU moves it to 10,500. It was posted somewhere here on the board but I don't remember who.
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