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mmakay
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October 05, 2008, 08:58:00 PM »
Once upon a time, I stumbled across the technical drawings of the CycleCat kickstands. Does anybody have a copy, or link to those? They showed the lengths, etc. and I can't find that information anywhere else.
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Re: Cyclecat kickstands
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October 06, 2008, 01:37:01 PM »
Ok, maybe that's a bit too wishful.
Can somebody measure the stock length of their sidestand from a DSS monster? My 695 came from the dealer lowered. I want to go back to standard height, but I don't know how much they cut out of the stand.
Any and all input is appreciated.
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Re: Kickstands
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October 06, 2008, 02:00:11 PM »
what gives with that. My S2R sits like its going to tip over. You would think that some one would make an aftermarket style that is an inch longer.
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Re: Kickstands
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Quote from: scduc on October 06, 2008, 02:00:11 PM
what gives with that. My S2R sits like its going to tip over. You would think that some one would make an aftermarket style that is an inch longer.
That's exactly what CycleCat did.
I thought about this too, as it seems it is ready to fall over - so, I tried to tilt it and found that it is NOT going to fall over the kick stand. If it sits more upright, with less pressure on the stand, it is more likely to move back- or forward. Now, that could be more of a problem.
I'm going to take another look if I get the new suspension which will result in a little less free sag. Guys who raise the rear substantially has a valid reason to put on a longer stand, but I think that's easy to do - welding on an extension?
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Quote from: scduc on October 06, 2008, 02:00:11 PM
what gives with that. My S2R sits like its going to tip over. You would think that some one would make an aftermarket style that is an inch longer.
The bike itself was lowered, so they shortened the stand to compensate. I want the bike back to normal height, so the stand needs to go back, too.
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October 06, 2008, 04:52:25 PM »
Quote from: mmakay on October 06, 2008, 04:31:22 PM
The bike itself was lowered, so they shortened the stand to compensate. I want the bike back to normal height, so the stand needs to go back, too.
$25+ shipping and Ill sell you my 2001 M900 stand...
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Quote from: rgramjet on October 06, 2008, 04:52:25 PM
$25+ shipping and Ill sell you my 2001 M900 stand...
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Re: Kickstands
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October 06, 2008, 07:35:22 PM »
I raised my rear on my RS about an inch and I'm having the same issue. Does anyone sell a longer kickstand?
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Re: Kickstands
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October 07, 2008, 04:59:28 AM »
Getting the length on the kickstands is pretty tricky. Here is the easy way to accurately measure to get your bike to sit at the correct angle.
If you are thinking that you need a longer sidestand you will need to guess at how much longer to start. One inch is a good starting point. If you think you need one inch over then get or make a piece of material in that thickness and place it under your side stand. If the bike is still leaning too far add to the thickness and if standing up to straight loose material. When you have it where you want it you have the length you need to add to the side stand.
If your bike is standing too upright then get two pieces of material in the estimated thickness and place them under both wheels. This will show you what a shorter sidestand by the thickness of the material under the wheels removed from your sidestand will do for your lean angle.
Make sure that the angle of the foot is correct. This is easier said than done. The Cycle Cat copies I have seen are the wrong length for the bike and the foot does not sit flat on the ground. I have no idea who made them so please dont ask.
Good luck with your project.
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Re: Kickstands
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November 18, 2008, 03:59:45 PM »
It's really amazing that this seems to be such a problem to deal with. I've had a delrin block tapped into the base of my sidestand for a few years now because I had my suspension raised. Cycle Cat sidestands don't really work because the foot angle isn't great (and I'm not crazy about the flex either), no one else has made an aftermarket sidestand for any of the Monsters, and machinists don't really seem to be crawling out of the woodwork. I have an aluminum bar I bought several months ago just sitting and I am thinking about shaping it myself.
Those of you who have made your own sidestands, please chime in with how difficult this really is. I proper billet aluminum bar only costs about $15 on fleabay, and if the work isn't too bad I may just do it myself finally.
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Re: Kickstands
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November 19, 2008, 08:42:04 AM »
I gotta go with stopintime on this one. I raised my RS 1 inch in the rear and initially thought it was gonna fall over in its new "lean" angle. I have manually applied some "help" to it to see if it really is on the edge of going over and its not even close. That said, I do carry a wooden hockey puck in my jacket for extreme situations...
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Re: Kickstands
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November 20, 2008, 01:23:01 AM »
are the extreme lean angles a left over when the stands were suicide stands? i mean if those weren't leaned on heavily... 'bam' time to fix the bike.
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Re: Kickstands
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December 17, 2008, 12:29:30 PM »
I dont have sketches but here are the Cycle Cat application charts.
http://ducatishopping.com/store/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=1227
http://ducatishopping.com/store/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=1226
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Re: Kickstands
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December 17, 2008, 01:21:19 PM »
Cycle Cat made some damn fine products.
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Re: Kickstands
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December 19, 2008, 01:56:21 PM »
Finally broke down and bought an S2R sidestand off ebay for $25. We'll see if it works since stock height of the S2R is roughly where i raised my 695 to. Worst comes to worst since this one is aluminum, welding isn't as much of a problem to extend it.
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