Testiment to Honda engineering..

[Slide Panda]

Um ok wow.  I drive a honda as my cage.  Reliable, well made blah blah.  I stumbled on this little video that show's you really really have to *try* to kill a honda car.  This poor little civic takes some massive abuse and keeps on going.


http://www.youtube.com/v/uyAwFw0eXwE&hl=en&fs=1
- The cliffs notes version for those who can't read french.. they finally got the engine to seize after running it for an hour with an oil system full over water...

[He Man]

It works. what can i say. those small engines are damn near bullet proof.

I dont think there are many engine blocks that have passed the test of time and mileage.

But hondas 4bangers is one of them.

but fords 4.6L v8 and chevys smallblock v8 beats that honda engine and then some.

[El Matador]

Pfft. Plastic Barbie car compared to this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lrk6vsb77xk&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Uc4Ksz3nHM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfZDtC9kjVk&feature=related

[He Man]

DAMN that was quick, videos no longer available.

were those the toyota terrorist car taht go drowned?

[El Matador]

DAMN that was quick, videos no longer available.

were those the toyota terrorist car taht go drowned?

Damn...

Yeah, it was the Toyota Hilux with 195k miles that  got:

Crashed into a tree at 50

Sunk under seawater for 5 hours

Had a camper dropped on it

Smashed with a wrecking ball

Set on fire

Put on top of a 23 story building which was subsequently demolished.

And it still ran.

[Popeye the Sailor]

It works. what can i say. those small engines are damn near bullet proof.

I dont think there are many engine blocks that have passed the test of time and mileage.

But hondas 4bangers is one of them.

but fords 4.6L v8 and chevys smallblock v8 beats that honda engine and then some.

Whatcha basing the ford and chevy love on? While some may last a while....they are not terribly well engineered....

[Le Pirate]

Whatcha basing the ford and chevy love on? While some may last a while....they are not terribly well engineered....

and some don't even last that long...I think the chevy smallblocks are alot of hit and miss...


honda 4 cylinders are well built machines and the yota hilux is a hell of a truck (wish I could buy one here).



I've also seen some extremely high mile scoobarus out there too (I know of 3 with over 300k on the original engine/trans)

[Popeye the Sailor]

and some don't even last that long...I think the chevy smallblocks are alot of hit and miss...


honda 4 cylinders are well built machines and the yota hilux is a hell of a truck (wish I could buy one here).



I've also seen some extremely high mile scoobarus out there too (I know of 3 with over 300k on the original engine/trans)

I think any of the really high mileage american cars are the just the high end of the bell curve.


If I bought a Honda/Toyota, I would have every expectation of roughly 200k trouble free miles, and 300k with some minor maintenance.

[He Man]

Whatcha basing the ford and chevy love on? While some may last a while....they are not terribly well engineered....

The contractors that have had the same ford E-250 for the past 30 some odd years and the occasional backfiring 1960s F150 that still runs.
Depends on what you mean by engineered well are we talking about frame engine or design? Both those cares are ment to be move shit...ALOT of shit. and sometimes, litterally shit.

As for the chevy small blocks. First car was a camaro LS1, so I am bias. I've seen some dudes at local drag strips who are running LT1s to the ground in old Fbodies. chevys small block 350 has been the same block since the 60s. I dont think they make the 5.7 Liter 350cid anymore. its 5.3L and 6.0L and 7.0L.

+ taxis and cops use the Crown Victoria platform (4.6L same basic engine as the mustang). Easy and cheap to maintain. Pretty solid engine for running 24/7. My neighbor is a cabbie and has logged over 350,000 miles on an 05 Lincoln town car without so much as a hiccup. basic routine maintenance is all it needs. Im starting to see Nissian Maximia hybrid and toyota hybrids as taxis but i dont know how long they last since they have just been turning up in masses recently.


Pops had a Toyota 4runner. 1985 or 88, not too sure. I forgot the number, but it had well over 350k. spark plugs changed ONCE in its whole life. total oil changes can be counted on 1 hand. it finnally died a few months ago. the engine cracked and one of hte cylinders died. wouldnt go past 50mph in 5th gear 5,000rpm. That thing was a beast.

[Popeye the Sailor]

Depends on what you mean by engineered well are we talking about frame engine or design?

Engine. Rods are too short. Oil bosses undersized....etc..etc...

[ducpainter]

I think any of the really high mileage american cars are the just the high end of the bell curve.


If I bought a Honda/Toyota, I would have every expectation of roughly 200k trouble free miles, and 300k with some minor maintenance.

There was a time when most American products did the same 200K trouble free miles.

You're just too young to remember.

You grew up when the US auto makers were building crap.

[Slide Panda]

DAMN that was quick, videos no longer available.

were those the toyota terrorist car taht go drowned?

If you want to see the video of that Hilux - goto the Topgear channel of the BBC on YouTube.  They are some of the 1st videos posted to that channel.  And yeah, that hilux took a hell of a beating, epic even, and kept going.  Though they never intentionally filled the oil res with water....

[lethe]

Two other american engines to keep in mind are the old Dodge Slant 6 (oil is optional) and the Jeep 4.0 inline six.

So far so good with my '06 Mazda 3 with the 2.0 liter, 149,000 miles and counting.

[wbeck257]

honda 4 cylinders are well built machines and the yota hilux is a hell of a truck (wish I could buy one here).

Its just a Toyota Tacoma...
You can get plenty of those here

[herm]

do diesels count?

i have 202,000 on my f250. never had an issue with it. replaced everything else under the hood, but that powerstroke is still pulling strong.