Drawing in 3-d?

[erkishhorde]

Oh yeah, don't forget to show the class your end result. 

[Fresh Pants]

Ching is the architectural drawing god!!!   

FWIW, I still draw most of my designs free hand.  ACAD is way too cold and mechanical, it has no soul. 

Wait a minute, are you an architecture monkey too?

+1 on Ching.

I jokingly call him Frank now. When we had a question when studying for the ARE, we'd refer to his Dictionary of Architecture (or something) and say "Ask Frank!".

[TiAvenger]

Anyone know of a picture hosting site that doesnt require all your info, unlike photobucket?

[erkishhorde]

might try tinypic.com but i'm not sure since I've never used them.

[TiAvenger]

not sure how this is going to turn out.....  but prelim drawings






Obviously this is in 2d...  I cant (dont know the math) figure out how to draw the interior legs to scale because of the angles. 

Also Im a bit confused on the scale/angles on the bottom view.

Its been almost 8 years since I flunked trig, and almost 10 for geometry (A  ) so i cant remember all the formulas and tricks 

[DesmoDiva]

Wait a minute, are you an architecture monkey too?

Yup, both my hubby and I are.   

[Popeye the Sailor]

Ti,

PM me and I'll walk you through the math.

[TiAvenger]

Ti,

PM me and I'll walk you through the math.

will do thanks, getting kicked off so the missus can do homework...(shes the smart one) 

[Rufus120]

I use Google SketchUp sometimes when I design simple projects.  I understand the basics of 3d better than most of the people I know, but I'm by no means an expert.  That program is free and I found it pretty easy to learn to use.  There are plenty of pre done designs on their data base to play with.  I'm currently try to design a house out of shipping containers.  Kind of a hobby I guess.  It might help you if you where to play around in it for a bit.  As cheesy as it's gonna sound practice is the best way to get better at something.  Start with just a box, then add another and so on.  Drawing out that plan you have there in 3d to scale would be hard for most people let alone someone struggling with the basics. 

http://sketchup.google.com/

The statement above comes from someone that isn't a professional doodler/designer person.

[erkishhorde]

So I came home from work and was trying to fab up a quick 3D drawing for you but I'm getting confused as to how a shelf attaches to the bottom.
...And what's with the funny scale? 

[laich528]

Was bored and figured I'd screw around a little bit with this in Solidworks. Wasn't sure what was going on in the middle (can you make a 3D image so I can see better? ) - Just kidding.
I'm an engineer by trade, but an artist at heart ( and nothing says an artist can't use technology!)
edit - the woodgrain doesn't look as good as it could. but it's late and I'm lazy.....

[cbartlett419]

but that kills the artistic appraoch of it!

I'd like to challenge this a bit. when flemish artist  developed oil paints the reaction was the same, but because of all the added nuances of oil over tempura the latter became obsolete. technology has fed artist since forever. I agree that drawing is a fundamental in addition to being a respected discipline don't get me wrong, but a tool is a tool is a tool anything that can help to finish a piece of whatever is a part of the process, and in my mind unless it's about the process, beg borrow steal. On to the topic, I'm a sculptor that loathes to draw, my sketchbook looks like a 5 year old has been working in it. If i'm working through a piece of whatever in my head and can't see a detail I'll build a model. Usually it's out of a smaller lighter cheaper material. sometimes, in my end of the spectrum, the models are just as interesting as the finished work

[TiAvenger]

So I came home from work and was trying to fab up a quick 3D drawing for you but I'm getting confused as to how a shelf attaches to the bottom.
...And what's with the funny scale? 

  Is there a standard scale I should be using.



laich528 has it right, minus the interior part. Its basically 2 diagonal x's  intersecting at the center.

[laich528]

Its basically 2 diagonal x's  intersecting at the center.

Ah, I see it now. Guess I was more tired than I though last night...

[Drjones]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthographic_projection


If I'm understanding the intent correctly then the bottom view is about correct minus how you're planning on attaching the center cross members to the base structure and how they attach to each other in the center. If the crossmembers are angle cut to sit flat on the bottom board and to each other then you'd need to know the cut angle and resultant hypotenuse length of the cut, temporarily sketch that as a line in the bottom view to establish a "footprint" (rectangle) on the bottom board and meeting point in the middle then project the corners of the footprints up to the front view.  In the front view you'd see three edges of each cross member; the "width" as seen in the front view is actually the hypotenuse from one corner of the footprints rectangle to the other.

Clear as mud?