DDA + 696?

[Danimal39]

Has anyone tried the DDA on their 696 yet? I got a DDA second hand, and while it appears that the bike can see it, I couldn't get it to write any data to it. Thinking it might be how I'm activating it, I've tried about every action sequence I can between the instrument panel and how/when I'm shutting the bike off. From what I can tell, the bike has no problems erasing the DDA, and activating the DDA seems to work from the instrument panel. I've also tried variations in how I start my laps (which does seem to work, with the brights switch) to no avail.

When I plug it to Windows, the DDA program launches and sees the dongle, but it happily tells me I need to go riding because the DDA is blank. This is also with the latest firmware/software from Prosa's support site.

That or maybe there's a version difference on the hardware? The DDA I have is from a 2008 1098S, which I presumed worked across the board as there is no indication that it wouldn't. If that's the case, I have a DDA to sell cheap. 

Then again, it could be me being dumb and not starting the activation/recording sequence correctly. Has anyone tried this? Thanks for any and all help!!

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Danny

[nkryptit]

I can't say for sure..But I think you have to click the lap switch (brights flasher) to get her to start recording.  Really just a guess, give it a try.

[causeofkaos]

ha ha ha you said DONGLE 

[causeofkaos]

but seriously... isnt the usb thingy under the seat the DDA ?
or is it just a diagnostics tool for a mechanic??

[duclvr]

From the manual. Sounds like if you turn the key off it automatically turns the DDA off.

[desmoworks]

The 696 and 1100 use a different part number DDA. I assume because the ECU is made by a different manufacturer than the ECU used in the 1098, Hyper, etc...

[Danimal39]

Thanks for the tips, everyone...I've definitely tried all the combinations of activation/disconnection/turning off I can think of between the instrument panel and the DDA itself. Either I'm missing something obvious, or the DDA I have will not work with the 696.

Here's the sequence I *think* should work (which doesn't):

1. Start bike, scroll instrument to the DDA activation screen.
2. Turn DDA to ON per the manual (with the DDA plugged in, of course).
3. Scroll down to LAP, activate LAP recording.
4. Start riding bike, use the brights switch to start timing lap.
5. Stop lap timing with the same brights switch.
6. Stop riding the bike, before turning bike off, turn LAP off, turn DDA off.
7. Turn bike off, disconnect DDA.

I've tried to change up the sequence in which I turn LAP/DDA off/on (step 6) in every combination I can think of, none of which puts any kind of data on the DDA. 

Beer and doughnuts to whoever can tell me they've used a DDA on their 696 and the exact way they got it to work! 

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Danny

[Danimal39]

but seriously... isnt the usb thingy under the seat the DDA ?
or is it just a diagnostics tool for a mechanic??

And yes, the connector under the seat is for the DDA. 

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Danny

[desmoworks]

Hum, I did a little more looking and PN 28620401A is said to fit the following models by Arco (dealer software from Ducati):

Hyper, 1098, 1098S, 1098R, 848 and Monster 696.

But according to the 2009 Ducati catalog and ducati.com the 696 uses a different part number for the DDA, PN 28620421A (the same as the Monster 1100).

My thinking says Arco is incorrect and that the following part numbers work for the following bikes.

28620401A: Hyper, 1098, 1098S, 1098R and 848 (all Marelli ECU)
28620421A: 696 and 1100 Monster (all Seimens ECU)

I think you have the wrong DDA and that is why it isn't working... since you have PN 28620401A. I just sent Ducati an email asking them to clarify fitment.

I'll let you know what I hear back.

[Danimal39]

Awesome! Thanks for looking into this. It certainly sounds like that's what's going on...

If that's indeed the case, I've got a cheap DDA to sell!

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Danny