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« on: December 04, 2008, 07:36:07 PM »

Ok.....I would appreciate input and pics here for those that have or used to have the Ex-box on their Rs's.  I currently am running the full carbon Arrows on my bike and want to change over to the Ex-box for cosmetic reasons because I like the open wheel look.  Any input on sound, quality, looks, durability, etc. would be awesome.  The searches I've done didn't give me enough info. or pics.  Thanks,

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« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2008, 11:06:02 PM »

Below was my original review of the Quat-D Ex-box; Enjoy

Well, after a few months of going back and forth trying to get past the look of the gigantic udder, I simply couldnt and i was left with no choice but to rid of it. Unfortunately, although I like the look and sound of the shorty Termi, it went bye bye along with the udder and it was time to shop for a replacement.

My criteria was, I want something compact that will not block the rear wheel, easy to install and sounds agressive. After a bit of research and even entertained the thought of fabricating my own shorty exhaust (too costly and no guaranteed result). The only choice left that fitted my criteria was the Quat-D Ex-box, so I went ahead and ordered one from the fine folks at Motowheels (thanks Martin and Brian)

Exhaust; The quality is very good, fit and finish was also good and it came with all the hardware you need for the install.  Whats in the box?  the exhaust, front header pipe, extra baffle, sticker, your invoice and some papers written in Italian.

Installation; No need to modify anything, no special tools needed or magic potions. Simple as removing the stock exhaust, shock mounts, bolts on each side of the engine case where you will insert the threaded rod to mount the Ex-box. Secure the exhaust, front header pipe (use a smaller clamp for this, the stock one is too big in diameter), re use the old gasket and you're done. I would strongly recommend having another set of hands to make it really easy. If you decided to get one and install it yourself, dont bother to look for any instructions, pictures or diagrams...it didnt come with any. But the good news is since it was a direct bolt on, even a drunk monkey can do it but do what I did, i called another drunk monkey and the install was a breeze. He actually did most of the work since I was summoned by the gf to help in the kitchen.

Sound; Between the shorty Termi, I would rate the Termi as 10 and the Ex-box 8.5. (10 being the loudest) I didnt mind sacrificing a bit of sound in exchange for a few extra weight saving since the gigantic udder weights a ton, not to mention an eye sore.  The shorty Termi had more of a rumble, the Ex-Box sounds more mechanical.

Looks; Personal preference, i like it. Thought about ceramic coating the Ex-box black but i like how the bottom half of the moto is silver or for the old folks, gray.

Performance; Can't tell if I gained any hp but the back firing was gone and it seemed to cure the low speed roughness. I rode almost 90 miles today and those two problems I had with the shorty Termi disappeared.

Side note:  Im using the exhaust in conjunction with a front 14t sprocket and DP open airbox.















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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2008, 01:46:33 AM »

Awesome looking Monster Asado  Vino!  Guess options are open as you could do this (see photo) also can't see why you couldn't use an ST2/4 etc collector setup? I'll get a pic of mine soon and post what I mean. Options could endless as what does this "udder do???"

ok better cheak how to post a pic!!!! Undecided
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« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2008, 01:53:28 AM »

http://images.google.co.nz/imgres?imgurl=http://www.superbikeitalia.com/images/17_242006113858am.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.superbikeitalia.com/projects/%3Fid%3D17&usg=__rjVez1lDdnifwFyROREQR87YCQI=&h=413&w=640&sz=102&hl=en&start=5&tbnid=Te2GvUAsT_PFjM:&tbnh=88&tbnw=137&prev=/images%3Fq%3D2005%2Bducati%2Bmonster%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den Check the project bike out.
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« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2008, 05:05:17 AM »

...Check the project bike out.

...not sure what this has to do with the Ex-Box, but I just put one on my S4R.  My bike is an '05 with the desmoquattro motor  (not testastretta), but close enough to share an opinion.

I had the Termi slip-ons and Marving midpipe:


Replaced with the Ex-Box:


The Termis were a little louder, but I think the Ex-Box might produce a little more bass on my bike.  IMO, Asado's film clip is a bit misleading: all I heard was clutch rattle.  I'm running an open clutch cover too, but you can easily hear the exhaust note over the clutch plate rattling.  And when it's on the cam, it sounds awesome!   Evil    I think the Ex-Box sounds great and I'm very happy with the swap.
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« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2008, 09:35:13 AM »

Thanks asado and pompetta.  That's exactly what I'm looking for.  Just want pics and opinions on it.  Both bikes frikin look sweet.  I love the open wheel look.   Anyone else?  I might be selling my Arrows soon!

Lou
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« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2008, 10:34:23 AM »

I hear you sickduc. I just sold my Full Arrow system for the same reason. I missed my Open Wheel look. I put my Udder back on.  waytogo
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« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2008, 08:04:05 PM »

not a 4v, but i love posting this pic...........

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« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2008, 08:40:11 PM »

A question for the box owners.

Has anyone put one on a scale to see how heavy/light it is?

After hearing them firsthand, and knowing what a unmuffled exhaust sounds like, there has got to be some serious packing/baffling inside one of those...  I'm still on the edge about making my own under engine exhaust box (out of Ti), or doing a really short set of megs on the side (problem will be noise).
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« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2008, 08:59:22 PM »

A question for the box owners.

Has anyone put one on a scale to see how heavy/light it is?

After hearing them firsthand, and knowing what a unmuffled exhaust sounds like, there has got to be some serious packing/baffling inside one of those...  I'm still on the edge about making my own under engine exhaust box (out of Ti), or doing a really short set of megs on the side (problem will be noise).

I don't have an exact figure, but it weighs about the same as one of the stock cans on my M620.
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« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2008, 12:36:12 AM »

Does anybody with an Ex-box equipped S*R* ride it hard enough to rebut a claim a mechanic made to me recently about them grounding out.

He said a customer had one but ran into cornering clearance issues. I'm suspecting he might have been confusing the Ex-box with a different exhaust but thought I'd ask the question nevertheless.

So, does the Ex-box touch down when the bike is cornered hard? Looks like it might stick out a bit further on the right side than the stock set-up.
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« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2008, 05:41:20 AM »

not a 4v, but i love posting this pic...........



Awesome paint job on the belt covers!!   waytogo
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« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2008, 05:43:15 AM »

There's little/no weight savings with the Ex-Box, but I have not weighed it.   I was day-dreaming about a Ti Ex-Box the other day...

A question for the box owners.

Has anyone put one on a scale to see how heavy/light it is?

After hearing them firsthand, and knowing what a unmuffled exhaust sounds like, there has got to be some serious packing/baffling inside one of those...  I'm still on the edge about making my own under engine exhaust box (out of Ti), or doing a really short set of megs on the side (problem will be noise).
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« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2008, 05:45:40 AM »

Does anybody with an Ex-box equipped S*R* ride it hard enough to rebut a claim a mechanic made to me recently about them grounding out.

I've only had mine on for about 200 miles, and it's winter here, so I haven't put it to the test.  Hopefully I'll do a track day in the Spring and I'll know then.  The rear-end of my bike is raised an inch or two, so that'll help a little. 
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« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2008, 07:59:29 AM »

There's little/no weight savings with the Ex-Box, but I have not weighed it.   I was day-dreaming about a Ti Ex-Box the other day...


Wait wait...the box weighs as much as the udder AND The pipes?

Ti would be cool for sure.  I wonder if aluminum might work as well....
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