Arent pilots sposed to guide the plane out of unpopulated areas before crashin?

[sno_duc]

I think Speeddog got it. First engine failed violently, shrapnel from first nicked an oil line ?? the second engine ranout of oil and seized a couple of miles short of the runway.
The pilot did great a job waiting to the last possible second to punch out.
The bigger question is: all over the country they build airports out in the booney's, then the make the beast with two backsin zoning department lets em build houses right up to the fence.

More years ago than I care to admit, while I was getting my private pilots license. I limped a Cessna 152 around the pattern with a sick engine. ( Apparently one of my gentler touch downs  broke a piece of crud loose which then procceded to plug the main jet ) It was a very very long couple of minutes, wondering if I was going to make the runway.

[Oldfisti]

The bigger question is: all over the country they build airports out in the booney's, then the make the beast with two backsin zoning department lets em build houses right up to the fence.

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[abby normal]

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yup.  anyone who lives here knows that miramar was built away from everything, then 'civilization' moved
in around it.  anyone who complains about the flight paths etc. needs to move.  the military objected as
well as it could when houses etc. started going in beneath the approach / departure, but city planners
had to have the tax income.  if you're gonna blame anyone blame the city planners for allowing all the
adjacent construction.

[Bun-bun]

yup.  anyone who lives here knows that miramar was built away from everything, then 'civilization' moved
in around it.  anyone who complains about the flight paths etc. needs to move.  the military objected as
well as it could when houses etc. started going in beneath the approach / departure, but city planners
had to have the tax income.  if you're gonna blame anyone blame the city planners for allowing all the
adjacent construction.

The same thing happened here in Virginia Beach. The Navy threatened to shut down that facility two years ago, and the city made a big fuss, crying about the possible loss of revenue and jobs if the navy went through with it. Even got the governor involved. Hell, The navy had been complaining about the new housing developments for twenty years, and the city kept right on issuing permits.
The navy backed down, and the city stopped issuing permits, but I doubt it's over.

My sympathy to the pilot and the family.

Is it too soon for this?
Definition: mixed feelings - watching your mother-in-law burn to death in your new house.

[TiAvenger]

Definition: mixed feelings - watching your mother-in-law burn to death in your new house.

survey says:   Poor taste. 

[Oldfisti]

survey says:   Poor taste. 

Survey says:  I think my sense of humor is as twisted as Bun Bun's!   

[CMDRDAVE]

The bigger question is: all over the country they build airports out in the booney's, then the make the beast with two backsin zoning department lets em build houses right up to the fence.

My prayers go out to the family and the pilot.

When I bought my house about 2 miles from Oceana (Virginia Beach) I had to sign all sorts paperwork stating that I understood the potential risks and had no grounds for action against the Navy.  Don't know if this would apply to rentals though.   Jet noise was also included in there depending on which "zone" I am in.

[He Man]

I think they made the right choice for going to land at miramar. Your option to land on a carrier is very dangerous. and Miramar sounds like a safe choice at the time. No one can say for sure that they knew the 2nd engine had any issues at all. Even then, this is the exact reason why all naval planes are twin engine designs, i am suprised both went out.

I dont think anyone can say for sure what happened until they release a report.

First thing id check out is when the last time that plane was worked on, for what reason, and if it passed all the safety checks.

[Slag]

. Even then, this is the exact reason why all naval planes are twin engine designs, i am suprised both went out.

An interesting side note: the Navy will be transitioning to a single engine fighter soon, the JSF.