Main Menu

Wood stove in your garage

Started by ducatiz, December 20, 2008, 06:44:38 AM

Previous topic - Next topic
Print
Go Down Pages1 2 3 ... 5
User actions

ducatiz

December 20, 2008, 06:44:38 AM Last Edit: December 20, 2008, 06:55:00 AM by ducatizzzz
I have been looking at garage stoves (yes, you can do it, despite there being tanks of gas sitting around) and wondered if anyone has done this?

Our garage is directly under the master bedroom and it would be nice to have a warm floor in the winter.

I'd plan to put the stove in the corner on the outside corner wall, with a horizontal chimney going out the wall.  Gas meter is there currently but I am having it moved (argh!)

The stoves I've looked at are small, rated around 35-45000 btu. 

If anyone has any FHE or ideas?

I am looking for something with a thermostat/fan, EPA (area requires it), and small and under 5-600 $, also needs to have a separate air intake as well.
Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

cyrus buelton

#1
December 20, 2008, 06:50:27 AM
I bet Ducpainter can help you out with this
No Longer the most hated DMF Member.

By joining others Hate Clubs, it boosts my self-esteem.

1999 M750 (joint ownership)
2004 S4r (mineeee)
2008 KLR650 (wifey's bike, but I steal it)

cyrus buelton

#2
December 20, 2008, 06:56:28 AM
No Longer the most hated DMF Member.

By joining others Hate Clubs, it boosts my self-esteem.

1999 M750 (joint ownership)
2004 S4r (mineeee)
2008 KLR650 (wifey's bike, but I steal it)

ducpainter

#3
December 20, 2008, 07:01:57 AM
Look into wood pellets. I just installed one in my shop.

Meets all your criteria...

except for price.

Depending on the cost of firewood in your area it may actually save you money in the long run, and it is much easier to maintain a constant temp rather than the temp variations that occur with wood.
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


ducatiz

#4
December 20, 2008, 07:03:36 AM
Quote from: crazybastid on December 20, 2008, 07:01:57 AM
Look into wood pellets. I just installed one in my shop.

Meets all your criteria...

except for price.

Depending on the cost of firewood in your area it may actually save you money in the long run, and it is much easier to maintain a constant temp rather than the temp variations that occur with wood.

yeah, that's why i said i wanted a wood stove, i have about 10 cord of wood sitting in my back yard, and another acre or so of trees begging to warm my house... ;)
Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

ducpainter

#5
December 20, 2008, 07:09:13 AM
Quote from: ducatizzzz on December 20, 2008, 07:03:36 AM
yeah, that's why i said i wanted a wood stove, i have about 10 cord of wood sitting in my back yard, and another acre or so of trees begging to warm my house... ;)
In that case....

You're still going to find price to be an issue if you want to stay in that range.

Have you looked at Northern?

http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/category_6970_122+766841

Most are epa approved or exempt.
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


ducatiz

#6
December 20, 2008, 07:53:12 AM
Quote from: crazybastid on December 20, 2008, 07:09:13 AM
In that case....

You're still going to find price to be an issue if you want to stay in that range.

Have you looked at Northern?

http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/category_6970_122+766841

Most are epa approved or exempt.

yeah, those are the ones i've been looking at -- the Vogelzanger (sp?) in particular.
Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

ducpainter

#7
December 20, 2008, 07:56:39 AM
Quote from: ducatizzzz on December 20, 2008, 07:53:12 AM
yeah, those are the ones i've been looking at -- the Vogelzanger (sp?) in particular.
No FHE with any of those, but they look OK.

As long as your chimney is adequate they should work fine. By adequate I mean providing a good draft. I'm sure you have all the code issues worked out already.
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


ejw24

#8
December 20, 2008, 07:56:52 AM
You could also look into propane or natural gas heaters.  
I'm having a failure to thrive...

ducatiz

#9
December 20, 2008, 07:58:31 AM
Quote from: ejw24 on December 20, 2008, 07:56:52 AM
You could also look into propane or natural gas heaters.  

after saying i have 10 cord of cut wood and an acre of trees, why on earth would i do that???
Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

ducatiz

#10
December 20, 2008, 07:59:45 AM
Quote from: crazybastid on December 20, 2008, 07:56:39 AM
No FHE with any of those, but they look OK.

As long as your chimney is adequate they should work fine. By adequate I mean providing a good draft. I'm sure you have all the code issues worked out already.

i can do the install of the stove, but i am definitely going to need help on the chimney since this is a wall exhaust.  i'd rather not have a pipe going up the outside of the house, but i might have to. 
Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

Got Duc

#11
December 20, 2008, 08:11:14 AM
I have a natural gas heater.

It gives me a headache... BAD  [bang]

I was thinking of a wood stove for the garage (that is where my silk screen shop is) this way I can be warm. Then thinking of the ease of the pellet stove I think that is the way to go.
Why do roaches always die on their back?

That because the survivors flip them over to steal their sneakers and wallets.

LA

#12
December 20, 2008, 08:36:21 AM
The plate steel wood burners of the early 70's that we called Buck Stoves were very good and cheap.  I searched and found one that approximates the old one.  Here's link.  I've used a big 100,000 btu soapstone stove to heat most of my house for 30 years.  The plate steel would be the cheapest and one of the best for your garage application that I can think of.  If you look around I bet you can find an old one.

This Durango model is built like the old Bucks I'm talking about.

http://www.vogelzang.com/tr008.htm

LA
"I'm leaving this one totally stock" - Full Termi kit, Ohlins damper, Pazzo levers, lane splitters, 520 quick change 14/43 gears, DP gold press plate w/open cover, Ductile iron rotors w/cp211 pads.

R90S (hot rod), 80-900SS, Norton 850 MkIII, S4RS

ducpainter

#13
December 20, 2008, 08:52:59 AM
Dry firewood is selling for $275-$400+/cord

Wood pellets are selling for about $300/ ton.

Pellets are much easier to maintain a constant temp...wood is either hot or cold as the stove cycles through its' load...which you'll have to replenish every 6 hours or so.

With temps around 30 my pellet stove burns less than a bag a day...more when it's colder naturally...it hasn't burned two bags in a day yet and the temp stays between 60 and 70 in the shop. My shop is in the barn with no insulation in the floor.

I like wood because it requires no power to run the stove, but I like the pellet stove because I don't have to babysit it constantly like the woodstove....and I own a generator.

The pellet stove is cleaner too...no bark and dirt from the pile to the stove, and the minuscule amount of ash is easy to deal with. Maintenance is simple and is also neater than with a woodstove. I also think they're safer than wood because when run properly there isn't any creosote...just some fly ash. Pellet vents are easy to install and only require 3' of vertical pipe.

I know I won't sway you 'tizzzz...but if it were me I'd sell the wood to the highest bidder and buy a pellet stove and pellets with the proceeds.

Keep in mind I also have 3 wood stoves in the house and wouldn't think of removing them. Ya never know when pellets will outpace firewood in price or become unavailable.
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


pndwind

#14
December 20, 2008, 12:59:23 PM
$275-$400  :o down south its more like $120-$140 a cord!!!!!!!!
"Well, between scotch and nuthin' I suppose I'd take scotch.  It's the nearest thing to good moonshine I can find."  William Faulkner
Print
Go Up Pages1 2 3 ... 5
User actions