There is a blatant double standard on this board

[WonderBoy]

so many things I could say!

Having been the guy for a long time that was on the receiving end of all attacks....

A)  It's just the internet.
B)  People are people.
C)  Refer to A and B.

If you don't like a part of it, don't read the whole thing.  If you think it sounds stupid, don't click on it.  If you're a jerk and you threadjack a lot, tone it down.

If A + B = C, does C - A = 1/2 B?  Wait, wrong subject...sorry guys.

 [moto], , and  , but no  . 

That is all.

[cdc]

Swanny expressed the point of view of many people and Zack others and Bryant still others.  I think it's unfortunate that people leave and others choose to stay away or don't post.  But if the board becomes what some want it to be then others might leave because they don't get from it what attracted them to it in the first place.  I think that would be just as sad.

The idea of a big tent implies that the many different approaches are accomodated.  Far be it for me to lecture those who post silly things on this board because I did a lot of it as recently as last night.  I also don't intend to lecture those whose wishes are for the board to be more serious and have the type of content they are looking for without the "white noise".  But if you guys leave, you are punishing the collective by witholding your knowledge and experience from us.  On the otherhand, if the others leave I'm afraid the place won't be as vibrant and funny as it frequently is.

Listen, I have a great respect for the old timers and anyone who knows more about motorcycles, riding and Ducatis than me but I also have a lot of fun with the new blood.  I sometimes ask myself why I hang around people half my age and realise that it's because I enjoy it when I'm around them.  Ride or no ride. 

Some of the people who can't stand the "white noise" have a lot to give and have always been well received when they do show up.  But I for one would not like to lose the "white noise".  I have lost out on many fun times by not wading thru the white noise and sometimes feel excluded but when I show up at the meets, it's like I never left the group.

I am a big contributor to the "white noise" on the board.  But I try to help out when I know I can.  So I think the ideal situation is for all of us to accomodate one another, discover what's good in the board and contribute as much as you can in whatever way you can.  My 2 cents.

cdc

[♣ McKraut ♣]

well put my man.   

[TresGatos]

Hey cdc, +1,  ,  There are not just a bunch of good people here, but also some wise peeps

[calscrazy]

talk about out of the loop..... that would be me. who took an "attack" personally? who pissed zach off so bad?
who said the westies were tearing up the board? there is another question i have but i don't think this is place for it so i will ask it to the proper person in person.  i dont read every post on every subject because personally sometimes i don't give a crap and things get so far off subject it's hard to filter out the bull s***. the white noise sets up for alot of inside jokes that we all sit around and laugh about at times. my rules are simple:
A) if you don't like what you are reading......SKIP IT!!!
B) if it is a serious question from someone, and everyone here knows when that is, offer a serious answer or
    comment. don't mess with the individual when they have a problem.
C) its the flipping internet and remember you will have to see that person eventually and how do you want them
    to think of you. someone who will cut up and not take it to serious or the guy nobody can joke with. the
    guy who takes nothing serious or the guy who knows when it's serious.

[Samsonite]

Well, I've held my tongue long enough on this thread, so here is my response.

I hope everyone has a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. 

[♣ McKraut ♣]

and...can i just add....as to the westies taking things over... you dudes deserve it, if that's the case, which of course it isn't.  you hang out all the time, and ride every freaking day.  i don't even own a car and you guys ride way more than me.  so, for what it's worth, you're hardcore core in my book.  anyway, i'll get back to my game of fallout 3 now..   

[Jester]

it's crazy how the dynamics here completely mimic my time playing an online game called everquest and the guild i was part of.  uncanny.

why anyone would leave the group over nonsense on the board is beyond me...but i'm definitely not in the "know" so maybe there are other reasons.  i can only assume though.  i'm not always in the mood for reading through the nonsense and spastic posting...but half the time, i am the clown posting the nonsense and bs.  i just wish people wouldn't sweat all the small crap, and just enjoy the show...it's a great and diverse group of people we have here, and i hate to see us lose anyone.  that said, i really like the dynamic here, and can only hope we stay as active as we have been.  and here's to hoping we don't have to do many more of these little talks in 2009   

and lol @ norris using the word "lovely"...i'm not sure why that was so funny but i almost spit diet coke up...  thanks, dude.   

You had part of your life sucked away from that bastard game too?  I helped lead a guild on Stromm for 3 years, Luclin through DoDH before it all imploded.  Amazing how the dynamics of guilds worked there.


ON TOPIC:  I have no clue what is going on here anymore.  I read from time to time and see posts about people being pissed off etc.  I don't claim to know what is causing all of this, but I do know that I like to ride!  I don't get to ride or hang out nearly as much as I would like, but I do enjoy what little time I get to spend with you guys.  That is all.

[Jester]

talk about out of the loop..... that would be me. who took an "attack" personally? who pissed zach off so bad?
who said the westies were tearing up the board? there is another question i have but i don't think this is place for it so i will ask it to the proper person in person.  i dont read every post on every subject because personally sometimes i don't give a crap and things get so far off subject it's hard to filter out the bull s***. the white noise sets up for alot of inside jokes that we all sit around and laugh about at times. my rules are simple:
A) if you don't like what you are reading......SKIP IT!!!
B) if it is a serious question from someone, and everyone here knows when that is, offer a serious answer or
    comment. don't mess with the individual when they have a problem.
C) its the flipping internet and remember you will have to see that person eventually and how do you want them
    to think of you. someone who will cut up and not take it to serious or the guy nobody can joke with. the
    guy who takes nothing serious or the guy who knows when it's serious.

+1

Can someone recap what exactly is going on?  Cliff notes version for those of us that don't live on the boards that much anymore?  Who left?  Feel free to PM me the info if its too 'public' sensitive.

[cdc]

First off, you have to show up at gossip tea parties we hold every now and then.     Just kidding.

Seriously though, my hope is that this will all blow over eventually.  Sometimes, things get aired out and sometimes things have to be said.  If we really didn't like each other then the riff will remain but there's enough goodwill around here that we will move on and let this go.

Don't feel excluded or out of the loop.  Same thing happens in all families.

I suggest we give this issue a rest now.

cdc

[muskrat]

I've been on several forums with previous bikes and I can honestly say this group is by far the best.  Not only does everyone know their bikes, they are well read, interesting and fun to be around.  I personally like that not one of us is alike but can say that these errors, if they can so be called, will lessen in time I hope.  I have much to learn about Duc's and hope this forum will feed my need for both Duc's and great conversation.  For me, one can never have enough options in threads.

[RED]

Have you ever walked down the sidewalk of a street in a big city and heard several different dialects passing within earshot? It's very interesting to hear. This happened to me a lot while living in Boston for a couple of years. Sometimes if you come out of your comfort zone and get bold enough to approach a person you don't know you may get to know someone who is totally different than you but just a like in more ways that you would have realized if you had not taken the time to let down your barriers and actually talk with someone instead of typing on a keyboard.
 I don't know about anyone else but I find the art of conversation much more stimulating than following this or any internet board.

That said I hang around here because like others like the diversity of the people here. Duc people not lemmings. I'll be at Joe T's tomorrow with a nice cigar a margarita and topics ready for some REAL conversation. All DFWMers are invited.

[cdc]

Alright, GOODNIGHT already?

cdc

[Duc L'Smart]

Nothing to see here, move along...

[NorDog]

You're all just a bunch of stoopid doody-heads!!!   

Seriously though, I do want to share something on this subject.

There was a get-together last year that was disussed beforehand here on the DFW/DMF (the meet at the Adolphus Hotel's Rodeo Bar).  One individual was, to put it plain, pissing me off with his comments.  They weren't directed at me or anyone in particular, and I didn't know this individual.  For the most part I kept my "pissedoffness" to myself.

Then came the event and I met the person (who will remain un-named here).

What a great guy.  His way with spoken words just didn't translate well to the written form, and I misinterpreted him all along.

The lesson for moi?  Lighten up Francis!

Post Script:
Anyone here calls me Francis, and I'll kill ya!