motorcycle tool supply

[MendoDave]

I've used plenty of Husky tools from Home Depot as well and never had a problem from them. 

When I think of Husky tools, I think of this.



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[dbran1949]

I completely disassembled my bike, down to bare frame, and put it back together with these crappy Craftsman type tools you speak of.  And I never had a problem and didn't feel the need for a specific set. But if could manage to get the Ducati logo put on these, then they would probably sell.

I don't think this is the point the OP was trying to make. I've made repairs with a vice grip and a piece of wire I cut from a barbed wire fence. But I like nice stuff, if it's unique all the better (we all ride Ducati). I like to cook. I have cooked over at friend's houses and used their "craftsman" cookware and "husky" knives and got the job done. But at home I use my Shun knives and All Clad cookware

I think you could sell a turd if it had the Ducati logo on it.

That's the point. hmmm.... I need to see if I can get a laser etched Ducati logo on my All Clad

[Jobu]

I don't think this is the point the OP was trying to make. I've made repairs with a vice grip and a piece of wire I cut from a barbed wire fence. But I like nice stuff, if it's unique all the better (we all ride Ducati). I like to cook. I have cooked over at friend's houses and used their "craftsman" cookware and "husky" knives and got the job done. But at home I use my Shun knives and All Clad cookware

That's the point. hmmm.... I need to see if I can get a laser etched Ducati logo on my All Clad

No way he will be able to source Snap-On parts with the Duc logo on them.  I was just saying people buy Ducati crap.

And nothing he is planning on selling is unique.  But if he can sell it to people who feel they need stuff that a full time mechanic would buy, then good.  It is a free market after all.  But I don't know if one can put a set of mechanics grade tools together for $400, especially if you include rachets and wrenches.  And what about a torque wrench?  Someone who needs a special set of tools for his Duc will damn sure need a torque wrench because they will have no concept of how much torque to apply to a 10mm x 1.5 steel bolt in an aluminum case.

I'm just saying that if someone needs a set of sockets and hex wrenches that don't include certain sizes, then they probably have never wrenched before, and they don't need to start now.

Hell, just go read the tech thread and you'll see that some people shouldn't be allowed near tools.

[tcspeedfreak]

  And what about a torque wrench?  Someone who needs a special set of tools for his Duc will damn sure need a torque wrench because they will have no concept of how much torque to apply to a 10mm x 1.5 steel bolt in an aluminum case.

arent those the ones you turn untill you cant anymore then keep going untill they spin free again, then you know their torqued to spec

[squidwood]

definition of torque........
When you have a ha*d on push down on it until you do a front flip.
I can put together a decent set of tools that most people will find useful for working on their bikes for around that price.
I worked on a friends bike yesterday. Trying to replace the rear wheel's bearings with out a set of snap ring pliers to remove the snap ring would have been difficult.I have several sets. My friend has none.
The wheel was off the bike for a new tire fitment anyway, so from start to finish the job of removing the old bearings and fitting the new ones was about 6 minutes. Without the snap ring pliers this job would have been awkward and taken at least a half hour and would most likely involved pinched body parts and blood ,or worse yet, a broken snap ring.I can almost guarantee that this is a part not kept in stock at out local dealer and therefore this job would not be finished until a new one sourced.
Does anyone see the direction where I was aiming for Motorcycle Tool Supply?

[dbran1949]

As I stated early in this thread, there will always be people who figure they can do it themselves or do it with less expensive / lower quality tools. The logic has always eluded me. If this were true universally no one would by AllClad, or Wustoph, BMW, or Ducati (or name any "high end product") this is a Ducati forum. Anyone who owns one has paid more, than if they would buy the equivalent honsuzkaw.

However you need to give us some idea of what you intend to do if you need some constructive feedback. A little more detail than "Good set of bike specific tools"

end of story

[stopintime]

I have an old tool box with something useful and a lot of really bad tools. Threw away most of it. Then I found three old incomplete sets of sockets, bits and wrenches. Add a few grocery bags of worn out tools and you have my equipment.

My wrenching experience is very limited, sometimes I do small jobs with no problems - other times I damage bolt heads and such.

I'm eager to learn and my willingness to try out different small jobs is greater than my tools. If there was a "Ducati" set available for $400 I would buy it - would accept a torque wrench to be extra. Major selling point is that "everything" is in one box - I don't have a garage and must take everything in and out for the smallest job.

I have no problems understanding the experienced guys' scepticisme, but for a noob Monster owner like myself this idea is spot on. Besides, it must be the perfect gift idea. Did you talk to MonsterParts, MotorCycleWishList, MotoWheels to see if they think they could sell it?

[MendoDave]

No way he will be able to source Snap-On parts with the Duc logo on them.  I was just saying people buy Ducati crap.

Probably not without permission. But he could source Snap On tools with the DMF logo laser etched on them.

[MendoDave]

I don't think this is the point the OP was trying to make. I've made repairs with a vice grip and a piece of wire I cut from a barbed wire fence. But I like nice stuff, if it's unique all the better (we all ride Ducati). I like to cook. I have cooked over at friend's houses and used their "craftsman" cookware and "husky" knives and got the job done. But at home I use my Shun knives and All Clad cookware

I completely disassembled my bike, down to bare frame, and put it back together with these crappy Craftsman type tools you speak of.  And I never had a problem and didn't feel the need for a specific set.  As long as your tools are neatly organized, then you should be able to find a 12mm socket that is 1 out 50 just as fast as finding one that is only 1 out of 10.

Craftsman tools might not be great for everyday use, but I have used them a lot and haven't had a single problem out of them.  I've used plenty of Husky tools from Home Depot as well and never had a problem from them.  And Craftsmans has a lifetime warranty.

Comparing Craftsman and Harbor Freight doesn't make sense.  That shit from Harbor Freight is good for travel.  You lose a wrench out of the set, you just throw the set away and get another one.

I don't think that was the point JoBU was trying to make either. Craftsman may not always have the most aesthetically nice looking tools, but they work just fine and are plenty tough & dont strip fasteners, flex etc.

[squidwood]

ok here we go
1 12 inch  ratchet
1 12 inch extension
I soft hammer
I set of internal/external circlip pliers
1 pair pliers
I pair 45* bend pliers
1 set of dykes
I 18 inch number 2 philips screwdriver
I 6 inch number 1 phillips screwdriver
1  12 inch flat tip screwdriver
1 10 mm shallow 12 point socket
1 12 MM shallow 12 point socket
1 13 mm shallow 12 point socket
1 14 mm shallow 12 point socket
1 8 mm combination wrench
10 mmm combination wrench
1 12 mm cobination wrench
1 14 mm combination wrench
1 4 mm allen socket
1 6 mm allen socket
1 8 mm allen socket
1 14 mm allen socket
I speedymoto rear wheel tool (SSA)
I ducati triple clamp nut tool
I chain breaker
I set spark plug gap tool
I rear real cam adjuster (SSA)
There are other tools to add, but this would be the basic set plus or minus a couple (I would have to determine what the axle nut size is on the pre SSA bikes) but basically this is about all you would need off the top of my head.
A set like this could have been be bought and would for most owners be all that they need to do most service work on their bikes from oil changes to upgrades.
I was not  going to offer etched tools, tools that say Ducati or any other bullshit codswallop mentioned here.
I was only trying to find out if there was a need for decent tools so that the monkeys who like to work on their own bikes could.
Please continue to buy your tools from your current suppliers .
I was just trying to help out fellow enthusiasts , but it seems that you are all experts in the field of motorcycle repair and need no help.
BTW did you guys know that the majority of the "great" Craftsman hand tools are  made in China? They really are an inferior brand with sloppy tolerances. Thats why the pros don't use them.
I am done with this.

[Capo]

You would not be able to remove the front wheel with this kit.

With regard to 'sloppy' tolerances of craftsman tools, has anyone ever measured this against say Snap On? I suspect this is a myth.

[tcspeedfreak]

hey squidwood thanks for the effort even if people weren't taking to your idea all that much or otherwise.  if i didn't already own 90% of whats on that list i would buy it

[Big Troubled Bear]

Keep up the good work squidwood 

[ducatiz]

squid, something tells me the majority of replies you got in this thread that were critical are the DIY types who would not buy a kit like this and there will be plenty of folks who WILL buy it who have nothing to say.

just have a beer and relax

[zooom]

There are other tools to add, but this would be the basic set plus or minus a couple (I would have to determine what the axle nut size is on the pre SSA bikes) but basically this is about all you would need off the top of my head.

DSA bikes use either a 17MM or a 22MM nut depending on vintage...


BTW, thank you for the efforts and I wasn't trying to be critical at all...just constructive.