comparisons in riding 2 vs 4 valve: favourite Ducati engine and why!

[Spider]

actually, after reading the article in today's age about Swedish road regulations and Vicroads considering lowering the speed to 30 kph....I might as well just keep riding bicycles - although I'd be breaking the law most times on that as well....as we know riding a Ducati at 30 kph isn't really possible for long periods of time.

The current government program of focusing on speeding (and the revenue it delivers) is really starting to sh!t me....the accidents and near misses I see every time I'm out there have nothing to do with speed - they have to do with inattentiveness. People are unwilling to concentrate on anything these days but the government keeps blaming speed....because it's a measurable amount I guess (like the roadtoll).

I'll keep pedalling!

[dragonworld.]

Yep I hear ya !! The Authorities here in Mextoria are now arbitrarily chosing a 2k or 3k leeway on camera fines.

I've actually seen 2 exceeding 60kph infingement notices, 1 for 63kph in a 60 zone and a 64kph in a 60.
On the 63kph a leeway of 2kph was used which made 61kph and the infingement was duly issued!!
On the other the leeway of 3kph was used and 61kph was the result and Bingo another one down.

So it appears the leeway is totally adjustable so that a few more of these heinous criminal speeders can be made to pay their debt to society. 

I reckon if you asked a cop what the infingement codes were for failing to signal, failing to give way and even tailgating they wouldnt have a clue cos they probably havent issued a "Tinny" for these for quite a while if ever!! But they'll know the speed infringement codes off by heart.

Thats where the road carnage starts, inattentiveness and "dont give a shit " attitude. If people start getting booked for these socalled "little" things they will have to lift their game and start to concentrate on what they are doing to be able to use the vehicles correctly.

If they arnt concentrating well enough to apply themselves to these "minor" acts they arnt attentive to others around them and their car control is poor and therefore traffic conflicts occur!! Then speed becomes a factor because they have to be moving to crash into something, but was the speed in excess of the limit?? Quite often no, they'll call it excessive speed (In brackets "for the conditions" ) but the authorities never let the facts get in the road of a good story.

Its a nice little money spinning racket aint it??

[Betty]

You guys have hit the nail on the head with the inattentiveness line. Problem is the authorities use this as justification for reducing the speed limits too ... of course this only makes things worse - people relax more, minds wonder, accidents happen.

... and when the accidents happen, speed is blamed as there obviously wasn't enough time to avoid the accident - umm, well no ... by the time due attention was paid it was all too late

[Spider]

also, don't go taking this as anti-cop, this is anti - Traffic Management Unit ranting....don't think many real cops like this sort of working as well...

believe it's called 'jury f#cking', which is you take a member of the general public, hit him up with fines for doing 3 kph over the speed limit, he turns into a 'anti-cop' (yes, we have them here) and they see the blue and hate it....then that person gets called for jury-duty....police have spent huge amount of hours getting this genuine criminal to court just to lose the case cause the TMU turned the jury into a bunch of police-haters....you can imagine how hard it must be for someone working on armed-robbery cases, trying to get the hard criminals off the street meanwhile you've got another division p!ssing everyone off!

[dragonworld.]

Dont get me wrong either, as far as being anticop, I'm most definately not!! But I will call a spade a spade! I have good friends, inlaws and sort of surrogate family that are in the job.

But I do get pissed with the holier than thou attitude of the TMU wallies and the like who extoll the virtues of the Governments and Force Commands Road Safety strategies as the ducks guts (Pun not intended  ) to stopping us from killing ourselves, when ANY thinking person can see them for what they are!! Blatant revenue raising and being seen to be doing something exercises.

Its also the opinion of quite a number of the Boys and Girls in Blue, according to the ones I have talked to. Except Traffic Management Unit people of course. The statements that "They would book their own Grandmothers" and that "They get a Phat chasing people" are oft used by the non TMU Constabulary!! They also reckon there is waaay too much political interference in Law Enforcement, and in particular Traffic Enforcement in this State!!

[monstermick58]

k lines are basically sleeves for valve guides.

paul.

So.... these a genuine ducati part or aftermarket? And what benefit do they have over whats in the bike now (stock)?




                                            Mmick (need to know bloke)

[loony888]

they're aftermarket, think of them as basically a re sleeve for worn guides. they work well when installed correctly and the other advantage would be  that they are a known part, you can install them in guides that have worn prematurely due to being poor quality and they're fixed, sometimes a warranty issue is fixed by replacing faulty parts with the same batch of faulty parts and you would have to go through the whole scenario again, at least using K lines they're fixed, for good, usually.

paul.

[dragonworld.]

they're aftermarket, think of them as basically a re sleeve for worn guides. they work well when installed correctly and the other advantage would be  that they are a known part, you can install them in guides that have worn prematurely due to being poor quality and they're fixed, sometimes a warranty issue is fixed by replacing faulty parts with the same batch of faulty parts and you would have to go through the whole scenario again, at least using K lines they're fixed, for good, usually.

paul.

And available from?

[loony888]

just about any decent engine reconditioners or machine shop.

[ducmeister]

Ok Spider there's a demo 848 with your name on it for 1230ish Tuesday 27th January at Duc City.  As this is a weekday it will be just us not the usual big Saturday test ride crowd.  See you there. (No 748s in stock sorry). 

Heather

excrement!!!!

hot shit!!!!

Umm ... I'm free on the 27th at 1230 ! 

[dragonworld.]

just about any decent engine reconditioners or machine shop.

Anybody got sizes required?? 

[Spider]

Anybody got sizes required?? 

yeah, according to the wife and every previous girlfriend, I definitely have the size required.

(Dragon, this is the weirdest thread jack you've EVER done!)

 

[dragonworld.]

yeah, according to the wife and every previous girlfriend, I definitely have the size required.

(Dragon, this is the weirdest thread jack you've EVER done!)

 

Err, Umm you dirty minded sod

Trust you to interpret something that is inevitably refering to the largeness (Or lack of  ) size of the family MEMBER ?? 

[heatherp]

Umm ... I'm free on the 27th at 1230 ! 

So what would you like to test ride? Or are you coming for a ride to keep us company?

[madalf71]

Mmmm whats on the menu???