Full Termi Price Quote too high?

[DucSteve]

I believe i got my full system installed on my s2r1000 for around 2500 USD, and it was from a shop that probably marked it up a little.

[Mike_D]

If you can, I would suggest you find someone who has put on a full arrow system with the Fatduc manipulator like I did.

I researched this further and it sounds like a good solution so I will probably go this route.  Other than the springs for the cans, Bill, were there any other installation issues or was it pretty straightforward?  Also, what setting do you have on your manipulator?  Thanks all for your input.   

[hypurone]

Couple of things. First, the ECU that comes with that setup is designed specifically for it, so there is no reason for the PCIII if you are not making any other changes. Second, Dynojet does not list a PCIII for the S2R1000. The DP ECU takes care of the O2 Sensor problem, but since you aren't making any radical engine changes, the PCIII is unnecessary and the map is a bit overpriced. I paid $200 for my custom map, and they typically don't run more than about $250..

Um, there is if you want the most HP you can get out of the bike and have it run it's best. The DP ECU is pig rich and designed for racing. It doesn't map smoothly at all down low and in the midrange compared to a PCIII and some mapping. They don't list a PCIII for the bike cuz they can't deal with the O2 sensor (not an issue if ya have the DP ECU in it already). Doesn't mean there isn't one that can be used. The one in my bike (S4RS) was for an M1000sie... Just so you know.... 

[sbrguy]

damn, well the pc3 pricing and dyno runs sound about right, at 600 total for that, so nothing bad about that.

you might be able to find the full termi system cheaper on ebay or such from a dealer trying to get rid of old stock or on sale.

other than that, you could just get the slip ons/forget the ecu and do the Pc3 only and save the price on the full system and probably just go slip ons/pc3 and get the sound you are looking for and a couple of  hp extra wont' be anythign liek 10-20 hp but you will ge tthe look and sound you want.

[sportskid1]

God that is a lot of money for exhaust.  What about a different manufacture?  I think my zard full system was around 1300 for my S4R and runs pretty well without modifying the ECU or running a PC3.

[NAKID]

Um, there is if you want the most HP you can get out of the bike and have it run it's best. The DP ECU is pig rich and designed for racing. It doesn't map smoothly at all down low and in the midrange compared to a PCIII and some mapping. They don't list a PCIII for the bike cuz they can't deal with the O2 sensor (not an issue if ya have the DP ECU in it already). Doesn't mean there isn't one that can be used. The one in my bike (S4RS) was for an M1000sie... Just so you know.... 

Well of course that's ideal, but not necessary. I know it CAN work. Hell, I have a PCIII from my old S2R800 (originally designed for an M800) on my stock ECU'd S2R1000 (2006) with the O2 sensor removed.

The bike will run just fine in almost all situations (with the exception of low throttle, low rpm) with the DP ECU...

[Mike_D]

other than that, you could just get the slip ons/forget the ecu and do the Pc3 only and save the price on the full system and probably just go slip ons/pc3 and get the sound you are looking for and a couple of  hp extra wont' be anythign liek 10-20 hp but you will ge tthe look and sound you want.

I thought about that but I want to drop the udder so I have to go full system.  A full Arrow runs about $1400 for the S2R1K. Throw in the FatDuc 02 manipulator for $80 and I'm in for about $1500 as opposed to $2500+ for the full Termi if I installed it myself.  If Dynojet eventually makes a PC III for the S2R1K, I could do the custom mapping then.   

[LA]

Send you ECU to Monstermash for a reflash to DP ECU specs. for half the price of a "new" DP ECU - There's no difference in the ECU's, just the programming.  I think Monstermash quoted a little less than $600.

A good after market full system is something less than or about $1500 (Arrows or Zards).  I believe both reuse your OEM exhaust manifold right off the head.

A trip to the Ducati shop for a reset of the Throttle Position Sensor and a open airbox w/K&N filter and you're in business.

$3500 for the Termi and PCM that you don't have to have is too high a price - and I'm a real fan of Termis kits.  My kit was $2100 and one hour's shop time at the time of purchase of the bike. 

Looks like a $1000 less than the Termi setup.

LA