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Spidey
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January 10, 2009, 04:44:30 PM »
FYI, with Ducs, if you look at the names of the bike, it'll give you a hint:
The MotoGP bike referenced above is called the d16GP6. The name is the D16, followed by GP (for MotoGP) and the 6 for the year '06.
Similarly, Bayliss' WSBK bike is called a 1098F08. That's a 1098R factory bike from '08. Privateers or satellite teams in WSBK don't have factory bikes. They run a 1098RS, which is a 1098R with a special race kit that makes it into an RS. You generally don't have to be anyone special to buy a race kit (for example, a few people around bought a race kit to change their 749R into a 749RS), but the factory bikes tend to have some parts that aren't made available to anyone other than the factory riders.
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Quote from: rockaduc on January 10, 2009, 04:20:52 PM
Stopintime said 2 cyclinder (in other words, a V-twin), NOT 2 stroke.
The D16RR is a 990cc V4 "detuned" to 200 hp.
The premier class (Stoner, Rossi, et al.) now ride 800cc V4's.
The 250's and 125's (both were 2 stroke)are gone, replaced by 600cc 4 strokes.
Hope that helps.
before 2007 the premiere class max was 990cc; now it's capped at 800.
not all the GP bikes are V4s. some are inline; yamaha's M1 most notably. they may have a max of 5 cylinders; honda's 990 GP bike was a V5. at one point last year kawasaki was considering an inline 5 800.
250 is still here; the 600cc class was just announced but doesn't start 'til 2011, i think. maybe '10, definitely not '09. 125 is not affected.
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Re: Educate a newbie on Moto GP classes, please
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Speaking of '09. Anyone know where to find the schedule and more importantly which network might carry the races?
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January 10, 2009, 07:55:57 PM »
Motogp.com
Speed airs them; in the last 2 years 3 or 4 of them have also been on a major network. But I would recommend getting a motogp.com subscription and watching them there.
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Speed TV carries them (and sometimes the big networks), but don't bother with them. Subscribe to motogp.com. It's sooooo worth it.
Dates
Grand Prix Circuit
April 12 * Qatar, Doha/Losail
April 26 Japan, Motegi
May 3 Spain, Jerez de la Frontera
May 17 France, Le Mans
May 31 Italy, Mugello
June 14 Catalunya, Catalunya
June 27 ** Netherlands, Assen
July 5 *** United States, Laguna Seca
July 19 Germany, Sachsenring
July 26 Great Britain, Donington Park
August 16 Czech Rep., Brno
August 30 Indianapolis USA, Indianapolis
Sept 6 San Marino & Riviera di Rimini, Misano
Sept 20 Hungary, Lake Balaton
Oct 4 Portugal, Estoril
Oct 18 Australia, Phillip Island
Oct 25 Malaysia, Sepang
Nov 8 Valencia, Ricardo Tormo – Valencia
* Evening race/course nocturne
** Saturday
*** Only MotoGP class
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Motegi in April, that's weird. Making room for Hungary.
...the damn season can't start soon enough
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Quote from: gm2 on January 10, 2009, 08:02:31 PM
Motegi in April, that's weird. Making room for Hungary.
...the damn season can't start soon enough
Where is it usually? Don't remember.
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About 4 before the end of the season. The '07 and '08 titles were both clinched at motegi.
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Quote from: gm2 on January 10, 2009, 08:07:52 PM
About 4 before the end of the season. The '07 and '08 titles were both clinched at motegi.
Ah, right. [moto] I never pay attention to which circuits come when 'cept for Qatar, Mugello, Valencia, Indy and Laguna. And Assen, of course. Cuz that logo makes me giggle like a f'n retard.
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yes....
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Quote from: gm2 on January 10, 2009, 07:46:21 PM
not all the GP bikes are V4s. some are inline; yamaha's M1 most notably. they may have a max of 5 cylinders; honda's 990 GP bike was a V5. at one point last year kawasaki was considering an inline 5 800.
unless they changed the rules, you can run a 6 cylinder, but you'd have to carry the same weight penalty as a 5-cyl so there wasn't really an advantage.
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Re: Educate a newbie on Moto GP classes, please
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Quote from: Spidey on January 10, 2009, 08:17:56 PM
Ah, right. [moto] I never pay attention to which circuits come when 'cept for Qatar, Mugello, Valencia, Indy and Laguna. And Assen, of course. Cuz that logo makes me giggle like a f'n retard.
The best is always the post-race interviews, when the riders are sitting in front of a whole wall of those logos.
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Quote from: derby on January 10, 2009, 09:15:40 PM
unless they changed the rules, you can run a 6 cylinder, but you'd have to carry the same weight penalty as a 5-cyl so there wasn't really an advantage.
hmm, thought it was 5.
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Quote from: gm2 on January 11, 2009, 10:18:33 AM
hmm, thought it was 5.
no limit, just different weight requirements:
http://www.fim.ch/EN/rules/Sportifs/ccrGP/2008/GP_tech_en.pdf
2.2 Classes
The following classes will be accommodated, which will be designated
by engine capacity:
125 Over 80cc up to 125cc – Maximum one cylinder
250 Over 175cc up to 250cc – Maximum two cylinders
MotoGP Up to 800cc –
Unlimited cylinders
Four stroke motorcycles participating in the MotoGP class must be
prototypes. Those that are not entered by a member of MSMA must
be approved for participation by the Grand Prix Commission.
2.5.1 The following are the minimum weights permitted:
– 125cc motorcycle + rider 136 kg
– 250cc
1 cylinder motorcycle 100 kg
2 cylinders motorcycle 100 kg
– MotoGP
2 cylinders or less motorcycle 133 kg
3 cylinders motorcycle 140,5 kg
4 cylinders motorcycle 148 kg
5 cylinders motorcycle 155,5 kg
6 cylinders or more motorcycle 163 kg
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Re: Educate a newbie on Moto GP classes, please
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Quote from: DrNo08 on January 10, 2009, 04:16:14 PM
Thanks so much. All good info. I will definetely check out the film.
If you like Faster (and you will), check out Troy's Story. Same look-and-feel as Faster (even the same narrator), but it's all about Troy Bayliss, so it includes World SBK and MotoGP.
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