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« Reply #210 on: March 30, 2009, 06:02:50 AM »

The movie Le Mans wasn't a 60s Hollywood gig. It was 1971 (close enough...) and it was all Steve McQueen! He couldn't get anyone to do it so he did it himself! He produced and funded it. It is an awesome movie, a little slow moving at times but a great racing movie. If you haven't seen it then you have to. waytogo Love all those Gulf Porsches!!

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« Reply #211 on: April 01, 2009, 06:56:57 AM »

The movie Le Mans wasn't a 60s Hollywood gig. It was 1971 (close enough...) and it was all Steve McQueen! He couldn't get anyone to do it so he did it himself! He produced and funded it. It is an awesome movie, a little slow moving at times but a great racing movie. If you haven't seen it then you have to. waytogo Love all those Gulf Porsches!!

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That's what I like about you Brian, meticulous! Very cool post.  waytogo
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« Reply #212 on: April 01, 2009, 07:19:15 AM »

I watched last weeks  Fontana race last night and saw a nother local boy done good, Clint Shobart (26) whom I got to know a little last year at a CMRA race. Bevelhead and I had the pleasure of being camped out next to his family and watched the race with them. His father Bubba was an AMA champion. Clint showed a lot of talent last year and is doing so this year on the AMA Supersport circuit. He's going to be one to watch. I missed the very last of the race last night but I think I heard that he had won a race too.
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« Reply #213 on: April 01, 2009, 09:19:08 AM »

MotoGP: Sete and his Shady Sponsors

Sete Gibernau is returning to MotoGP after an absence of two years to ride a Ducati for the Onde 2000 team. The bike was unveiled bearing two names, those of a convicted fraudster and a small African country ruled by one of the world's worst dictators. Has MotoGP taken a step too far in its search for financial backing?

The name of the first sponsor is Francisco Hernando, who owns the Onde 2000 property development company. He is known in Spain as "El Pocero" which translates as "The Well Digger". This is a reference to his origins as a manual labourer digging wells and sewers. Despite being virtually illiterate, he owns the grandest yacht in Spain and is the mastermind of huge property developments. [El Mundo (Spanish)]

Hernando's rise from poverty to boss of a multimillion Euro property empire would seem like a marvellous rags to riches tale, if it were not for the controversy which has dogged him. "El Pocero" was convicted of tax fraud and sentenced to four years imprisonment in 2007, but managed to stay out of jail by paying the tax man 3 million Euros. [El Pais (Spanish)]

His grandest property development is at Seseña, just outside Madrid, where more than 13,500 apartments were built. Of course, the Spanish property market crashed hard this year, with Seseña being described as a ghost town by a BBC reporter who visited. The number of residents is estimated at less than a thousand, with people trying to sell the apartments at a loss. [BBC]

So how is a Spanish property developer finding the cash to sponsor a MotoGP team, when his flagship development plan lies in tatters?

Now is when our story turns sinister.

Francisco Hernando is maintaining his property empire by building in foreign countries. One of the countries he has linked up with is "Guinea Ecuatorial", or Equatorial Guinea, a former Spanish colony in Central Africa. This tiny country has a population of around half a million, and is ruled with an iron fist by Teodoro Obiang Nguema, who appears in 11th place in Parade Magazine's list of the World's Worst Dictators (having dropped out of last year's top ten position.) [Parade Magazine]

Although Equatorial Guinea holds "democratic" elections, Obiang's party wins every time (with 97% of the vote in the 2002 election). His rivals do not stand against him, as the system is so corrupt that they cannot possibly win. [BBC] Opponents of the ruling regime risk torture and death. This gives Obiang god-like powers over his countrymen, and crucially, total control over the country's oil and gas reserves.

Equatorial Guinea's annual income from selling oil is estimated at more than 4 billion US dollars. With a population of just half a million, this means the country is theoretically one of the wealthiest in Africa, with a GDP per capita close to that of Portugal and nearly twenty times that of neighbouring Cameroon. In fact, the discovery of oil has led Equatorial Guinea to record the second highest growth in GDP per capita in the world for the period 1975-2002. However, the people of Equatorial Guinea are among the world's poorest, subsisting on around one dollar per day. [BBC]

Obiang and his family, on the other hand, are rich beyond most Westerner's wildest dreams. At one stage, it was discovered that Obiang had deposited $700 million of oil money in a bank in the United States, where he was educated. More than $2 billion is hidden in foreign bank accounts. [IRIN] His son Teodorin, who is known for his flashy lifestyle, owns a record label in the US, and has splashed out millions on fast cars. [London Times] Western governments, particularly the United States, stay out of Equatorial Guinea's affairs because they benefit from the country's oil boom. [Slate] A group of bungling British and South African mercenaries recently tried to overthrow Obiang, not because he is evil, but because they had been promised oil contracts if they succeeded. [The Independent]

Less than half of the people in Equatorial Guinea have access to clean water. A simple visit to a doctor would cost many weeks' wages, and is therefore impossible for most people. [IRIN]

The country's infant mortality rate is terrifying. Twenty percent of Equatorial Guinea's children die before they reach five years old. [UNICEF]

Why is Equatorial Guinea sponsoring a MotoGP bike when its children are dying in their thousands? How low will MotoGP sink to ensure there is another bike on the grid in 2009?
 
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« Reply #214 on: April 01, 2009, 11:06:36 AM »


Sad story.  Hate to see that sort of thing but... it's Gibernau's bike so it shouldn't get any air time on TV; who cares how a backmarker is doing.
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« Reply #215 on: April 01, 2009, 12:52:44 PM »

Sad story.  Hate to see that sort of thing but... it's Gibernau's bike so it shouldn't get any air time on TV; who cares how a backmarker is doing.

All true... but his hair is awesome!!! laughingdp
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« Reply #216 on: April 01, 2009, 12:56:22 PM »



Isnt about Airtime but  how they let companies and organizations like this in a sport! .... Cigarette sponsors seem to  so innocent now Lips Sealed
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« Reply #217 on: April 01, 2009, 06:34:27 PM »

+1 giannis

we all want theses sports to move forward and this cannot be seen well on a global scale.

yeah, but did you see who got the blame??  BS in my opinion

 i think hamilton was very lucky to finish in the points and dont care what anyone says that wreck was all kubica's fault. he wasn't gonna catch button so take your time and settle for 2nd.
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« Reply #218 on: April 02, 2009, 01:20:21 AM »

apparently Hamilton admitted that he deliberately slowed down to let Trulli past, so the FIA will probably reverse its decision.
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« Reply #219 on: April 02, 2009, 03:47:32 AM »

And so they have:
http://www.crash.net/Formula+One/News/144718/1/lewis_hamilton_disqualified_from_australian_gp.html

Hamilton has been disqualified from the Melbourne GP, for providing misleading information to the race stewards
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« Reply #220 on: April 02, 2009, 01:44:24 PM »

OK you guys! Get that car crap off my thread!! laughingdp laughingdp laughingdp

Sounds like the Moto2 class is getting really messed up. Makes me wonder if the AMA/DMG are involved?? laughingdp

http://www.cyclenews.com/articles/road-racing/2009/04/02/spec-engine-for-motogp2-class

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« Reply #221 on: April 03, 2009, 03:14:32 PM »

This could be a very interesting World SBK race at Valencia. 17 bikes within a sceond of each other always makes for good racing. waytogo I don't really care who's fastest today or in Superpole, that's not racing on spec tires. I can see every race this year being like this. Does it get any better?

http://www.cyclenews.com/articles/road-racing/2009/04/03/biaggi-on-top

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« Reply #222 on: April 03, 2009, 03:17:03 PM »

An old guy I used to wrench with once said..."Racin is just Racin."
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« Reply #223 on: April 04, 2009, 03:17:55 PM »

Ben Spizzzz on pole Again.... bow down bow down 3 Races 3 Poles, he did it with his backup bike! applause
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« Reply #224 on: April 05, 2009, 02:13:22 PM »

great race weekend. f1 was a blast (full wets or intermediate hmmmmm... wrong!!)
the world sbk races were both good but not as dramatic. supersport sounds like it was goooood cant wait until tues to see it.
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