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« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2009, 10:04:19 PM »

Maybe he was calling you fat when he said you outgrew your bike  Grin cheeky


That aside, 2,500 miles? I seriously doubt you are ready to upgrade. Even if you can ride the bike to its full capability, you have not yet spent enough time on the street to be prepared for all of the dumbmake the beast with two backsery that has yet to come your way. I would say you're still learning, and continuing to learn more, while on a faster bike, will not necessarily be conducive.


That also aside, it's more fun to ride a slow bike fast, than a fast bike slow. I'd stick with the 620 and keep your license  Wink
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« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2009, 10:15:35 PM »

I'm scraping the pedals

Your 620 has pedals?  Huh?    Wink

I seriously doubt you're outriding your 620 after 2,500 miles. I've done a couple trackdays with a local guy who had a 620...he was very fast (Leo Lam for the old timers). He would drag knees at every corner, and scrape hard parts...to the point his mufflers were wearing through. He would also pass a lot bigger bikes on the track.

You say the acceleration isn't there, but are you pegging the throttle all the time? You could also try a 1/4 turn throttle, which will make it easier to peg...thus making the bike feel faster. Just an idea.

That said, I don't think you have to outride a bike to move up. If you want a bigger bike then get one. I see your concern about spending money on the 620's suspension, when you can get a larger bike with adjustable suspension. 
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« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2009, 05:53:57 AM »

First, 2,500 on an 05' 620 dude i have 15,300 on my 05 620.  Second your bike is more than capable to do anything other larger bikes can do besides speeds in excess of 120.  A shift in your positioning will prevent you from scraping your foot pegs.  The ONLY reasons for upgrading is because you want another bike or the monster is sputtered its last breath.  Go out an thrash a bit with other bikers you will spend the whole day talking about your bike and realize exactly what you have. So go out and enjoy.






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« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2009, 06:31:20 AM »

also, i have to say.. your 'friends' who are calling you out cause you can't keep up... are jerks. ride at your own pace.
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« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2009, 08:39:51 AM »

also, i have to say.. your 'friends' who are calling you out cause you can't keep up... are jerks. ride at your own pace.

I don't want to mislead anyone by saying that my buddies are calling me out because they are not. They just said it may be time to upgrade. No hard sell, it was just a suggestion.
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« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2009, 08:41:56 AM »

Go to a track day school (or a few) and learn your bike until your friends can't keep up with you in the corners & then get a new bike (if you want). In the mean time, direct your friends to this article.

If you're concerned about spending money on your 620 to get it where you need want it, you're going to have the same issues with any monster of that style. The S*R monsters have more clearance as do the new monsters.

I'm getting a smaller bike next, less power, less weight. Power to weight is where it's at.
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« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2009, 08:42:30 AM »

track school

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clip-ons
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« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2009, 08:54:42 AM »

track school

rearsets

clip-ons

+1

I know a guy with an 03 620 with rearsets and clipons that has no trouble keeping up (since that seems to be your concern).
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« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2009, 09:19:48 AM »

Its a free country buy what you want. If you like the aesthetics of a Sport Classic 1000 S and can afford it, buy it, buy two. Knock yourself out. All the track school in the world will not make your 620 look like anything but a 620. New pipes, clipons, and all the other parts you can bolt on still makes your bike a 620 with a lot of stuff bolted on.

By the way, you can never have too much power... If  you don't need it, don't twist.


Or maybe I'm completely full of sh!t.
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« Reply #24 on: January 22, 2009, 09:29:06 AM »

Its a free country buy what you want. If you like the aesthetics of a Sport Classic 1000 S and can afford it, buy it, buy two. Knock yourself out. All the track school in the world will not make your 620 look like anything but a 620. New pipes, clipons, and all the other parts you can bolt on still makes your bike a 620 with a lot of stuff bolted on.

By the way, you can never have too much power... If  you don't need it, don't twist.


Or maybe I'm completely full of sh!t.


Bingo.  Tongue

these guys might argue with you.

http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=10944.0
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« Reply #25 on: January 22, 2009, 09:38:31 AM »

Bingo.  Tongue

these guys might argue with you.

http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=10944.0


Those guys argue with me all the time. But you need to borrow Mo to get a 620 looking as good as those.
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« Reply #26 on: January 22, 2009, 09:42:12 AM »

Those guys argue with me all the time. But you need to borrow Mo to get a 620 looking as good as those.

 Huh?

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« Reply #27 on: January 22, 2009, 10:11:42 AM »

Unless you are too big, weight/height, for the 620 you do not need to upgrade. Nobody ever listens to me but more motor/hp is way overated unless you are on the track. I do about 45K miles a year, most of that on two lane twisty roads. I ride with experienced riders and we move rather quickly through the turns and except for an occasional blast on a straight here or there we spend the bulk of our time doing 60-80mph and having a blast. I prefer my M900 over my S2R1000 for the street and having ridden a 696 I would say that is probably all anyone needs for the street. As one example, last year 6 of us went over to Mid-ohio from VA, all back roads, spent a day doing the roads of SE Ohio. One guy was on a 620, another on an S4R, the guy on the 620 had no problem keeping up yet the guy on the S4R did and that bike had $4K+ of perfromance mods done to it, plenty of HP. Suspension can be upgraded rather easily, I upgraded to race tech on all 3 of my Ducati's which puts me within about 90% of Ohlins for a lot less money. Pegs dragging are a problem on the older mosnters, get some rear sets. If you want more pickup change the gearing, 3 up in the back or 1 down in the front, you may also want to change the torque - that's where it realy counts BTW - not HP - do that with some cans, filter, and PC or another ecu. Anyway hope this helps - Gene
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« Reply #28 on: January 22, 2009, 10:44:49 AM »

The 620 is fine, as other's have mentioned, re-spring it and buy yourself a track day or track school session.  My 62HP M750, even 2-up wasn't too far behind the Speed Triples, 900SS, Falco and 955i on the last "spirited" ride I was on ~

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« Reply #29 on: January 22, 2009, 10:54:40 AM »

Well, hell, if we wanta go extremes, the wife was passing liter bikes in the twisties over the summer.....



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