Chain Grease on Wheels

Started by amcloud, February 08, 2009, 05:51:38 PM

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flynbulldog

Did you change your chain to a non O-ring style???

DuciD03

Quote from: yuu on February 09, 2009, 12:32:24 PM
The folks at Web Bike World like a product called 'Bean Clean'  for chain cleaning

http://www.webbikeworld.com/r3/motorcycle-chain-cleaner/bean-clean/

They also found this cool gizmo 'The Chain Drain' which seem like it could make chain cleaning and lube jobs a lot less messy
http://www.webbikeworld.com/r4/chain-drain/

I made 2 similar out of a plastic 1ga windshield wiper fluid container and one out of a smallish cardboard box lined with newspaper to dispose of after; I perfer the box with throw away newspaper method, less mess and no overspray; protects the tire.
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NekkedChic

Does anyone seriously even USE "grease" any more and, if yes, WHY?? 

Wax is all we use, EVAR!
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brimo

Quote from: NekkedChic on February 10, 2009, 01:56:13 PM
Does anyone seriously even USE "grease" any more and, if yes, WHY?? 

Wax is all we use, EVAR!

[roll] He meant grease as a generic term for crud  [roll]
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From a story by RAT900
http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=54722.msg1015917#msg1015917

NekkedChic

Quote from: brimo on February 10, 2009, 03:43:18 PM
[roll] He meant grease as a generic term for crud  [roll]

[bang]   :-X :-X   [coffee] [coffee]  sorry   [laugh]
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swampduc

Quote from: NekkedChic on February 10, 2009, 01:56:13 PM
Does anyone seriously even USE "grease" any more and, if yes, WHY?? 

Wax is all we use, EVAR!
Well, a lot of people feel that wax takes up and holds more debris, possibly making the chain wear faster. Personally,  I like plain-ass chain lube ("grease"), especially since I really don't ride in the wet where a heavier lube has the advantage. Not that I'm an expert, just sayin'.
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NekkedChic

Quote from: swampduc on February 10, 2009, 04:08:40 PM
Well, a lot of people feel that wax takes up and holds more debris, possibly making the chain wear faster. Personally,  I like plain-ass chain lube ("grease"), especially since I really don't ride in the wet where a heavier lube has the advantage. Not that I'm an expert, just sayin'.

Sounds reasonable to me.  We lived on a dirt road for years, only JUST moved to a 'hood with PAVED ROADS WOOT....always worried about wax "holding" the sand and tearing up sprockets etc......altho not seen any damage after 5+ years honestly due to this. Personally HATE the oily MESS the old skool chain oil makes of EVERYthing...  had a service done on a Ninja the other year and they used that stuff....my SPOTLESS bike was NASTI by end of ride home, so we STRIPPED all and waxed chain and so much cleaner/nicer IMHO. 
NOT an expert here either, will never claim to be, (apparent also by my dopie reply to "grease" lol)  so interested in everyone else's opinions honestly on wax versus oil.

back on topic....
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OT_Ducati

aren't oils suspended in the wax to lube your chain?
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Quote from: OT_Ducati on February 10, 2009, 06:41:57 PM
aren't oils suspended in the wax to lube your chain?

Not always.  There are dry/not oil based lubricants.  For example, I use the dupont Teflon spary on my chain.  Sprays on wet, then dries to a real wax consistency.  The lubricant is the teflon
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flynbulldog

Call me crazy but O and X ring chains are supposed to be internally lubed - all I do is clean my chain with WD40 every month or so...

DuciD03

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Quote from: flynbulldog on February 10, 2009, 08:33:52 PM
Call me crazy but O and X ring chains are supposed to be internally lubed - all I do is clean my chain with WD40 every month or so...

yes; but ...

theres debate as to how to protecting the outside of the links from rusting & where the links slide past the sprocket and against themselves ...

also;  I've seen some posts that wd 40 isn't good for X / O rings as "a lube; it " can work its way past the O rings and damage the seal ...

I use wd 40 for a cleaner then wipe it off, I may even stop using it for cleaning the chain, then use Motul Chain lube (not wax) to protect from rain.
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brimo

Quote from: DuciD03 on February 10, 2009, 10:20:49 PM
yes; but ...

theres debate as to how to protecting the outside of the links from rusting & where the links slide past the sprocket and against themselves ...

also;  I've seen some posts that wd 40 isn't good for X / O rings as its a thing lube that can work its way past the O rings and damage the seal ...

I use wd 40 for a cleaner then wipe it off, I may even stop using it for cleaning the chain, then use Motul Chain lube (not wax) to protect from rain.

yep all of the above, not to mention also the rollers contact surface with the sprocket, that's where there is a big load transfer.

off topic slightly but this might also answer a few questions has abit to say about wd40

http://www.webbikeworld.com/t2/motorcycle-chain-lube/#wd40
"The make the beast with two backsin monkey started it..."

From a story by RAT900
http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=54722.msg1015917#msg1015917

brimo

Quote from: DuciD03 on February 10, 2009, 10:20:49 PM
snip>....its a thing lube... <snip.

There are better lubes than that to use on your thing....
"The make the beast with two backsin monkey started it..."

From a story by RAT900
http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=54722.msg1015917#msg1015917

w7ck7d

OK i guess nobody use 409 grease cleaner..i use this product to clean my chain before lube.and it works really good on grease..and safe for the paint as well.
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Quote from: amcloud on February 08, 2009, 05:51:38 PM
What is the best way to remove the grease the chain slings on these pretty wheels? 

Pretty wheels?.....Oh yeah....you mean the way they looked when they were new.   ;D

I generally don't wash my bikes very often, but I do wipe down my wheels with every tire change or any other time I have the wheel off the bike. For reference, my wife and I went through 18 tires in 2008, 18 tires in 2007, and 14 tires in 2006, so we have the wheels off the bikes a LOT (we've changed four tires already this year). Anyway, to clean the crud off the wheels, I generally use WD-40. If I don't have any WD-40 laying around, I've used gasoline, kerosene, brake cleaner, carb cleaner, contact cleaner, and engine degreaser. When my wife washes her bikes, she uses "Suzuki Wash" and that works effortlessly and very well, but it's pretty expensive stuff.

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