Enegineers: Statistics question

Started by He Man, March 09, 2009, 09:43:29 PM

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He Man

Got a teacher who cant speak english very well, and also is very quiet in a room of 50 students so I dont really understand what the hell she is saying, and the book we are using is confusing as hell (she even said this isnt a good book but im required to teach out of it). So are there any good books that i can self teach myself from? Im thinking about picking up statistics for dummies... there isnt tutoring available for this class either.

we are using Probability Concepts in Engineering by Alfredo H-S. Ang and Wilson H. Tang.

erkishhorde

Mmmm.. I don't remember what my statics book was but it was decent. It's at my parent's place so I'll call them and ask them what it was tomorrow morning.

In the mean time, if you need any help w/ statics homework, scan it and post up. I was a tutor and it's still relatively fresh in my head.  ;D Everything except stupid things like centroid by integration. That stuff is annoying as hell and I don't remember how to do it well because I didn't need it again until master's classes. But if you do end up needing help w/ it I might be able to dig around for some stuff on it. I kinda remember it...
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Langanobob

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QuoteMmmm.. I don't remember what my statics book was but it was decent.

Aaaaaaaaargh.  The question is about statistics,  not statics.  Kind of like the difference  between break and brake that enjunears also don't seem to be able to grasp or spell. ;D

Just kidding and I can't read or spell eather.

He Man

Spelling shmelling.  ;D

yea, i ment statIStics not statics, im down with statics, in fact we are in the middle of CoG and Centroids.  :P

erkishhorde

Woops. Obviously my years of schooling aren't worth much since i can't even read. I bet I still have a 4th grade reading level.  [roll]
ErkZ NOT in SLO w/ his '95 m900!
The end is in sight! Gotta buckle down and get to work!

Speedbag

In college I had a statics teacher that was originally from Poland, and had a very thick accent and relatively poor english skills. One day during lecture he was rambling on and mentioned something about 'animal paint'. A few of us began wondering amongst ourselves just what the hell he has talking about. Then after about five minutes, it dawned on someone and they said, audibly, "Ohhhh, ENAMEL paint!"

The teacher turned around and nodded, "Animal paint, yes?"

Sorry, no help on the statistics.  :)
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mitt

For statistics, the web is probably just as good a place as any.   Also, excel has a pretty decent tool set with OK Help.  Or minitab.

If you are really lost though, I would recommend sitting down one on one with the prof and getting help outside class.  The longer you wait, the worse it will get - statistics builds on itself.

If you have any specific questions, post them up, I am sure someone on here can answer it  [thumbsup]

mitt

He Man

Quote from: mitt on March 10, 2009, 06:13:33 AM
If you have any specific questions, post them up, I am sure someone on here can answer it  [thumbsup]

where to begin.... i will try to find some good online resources to read up on it then post questions as I go along. :)  ;D
now i have to go do the reading.

Triple J

Whay are you taking statistics as an engineer? Is it required, or are you just a masochist?

He Man

Im not an engineer. Im a math major. you must of read it wrong.  [roll]








;D
its required. one of the many BS classes i need to take. (including microbiology and circuits)

mitt

Quote from: Triple J on March 10, 2009, 09:09:34 AM
Whay are you taking statistics as an engineer? Is it required, or are you just a masochist?


Stat was required for all engineers at my school.  It is fundamental in building test plans, testing, interpreting results, setting tolerances on prints, measurement methods, and approving new parts, among other things.  It is also valuable if you deal with a manufacturing environment with Statistical Process Controls, and you need to trouble shoot problems based on logged historical data.

mitt

Triple J

Quote from: mitt on March 10, 2009, 09:30:47 AM

Stat was required for all engineers at my school.  It is fundamental in building test plans, testing, interpreting results, setting tolerances on prints, measurement methods, and approving new parts, among other things.  It is also valuable if you deal with a manufacturing environment with Statistical Process Controls, and you need to trouble shoot problems based on logged historical data.

mitt

Must depend on the type of engineer. You're an ME right? If I'd have made it past Numerical Methods (at the time basically advanced Fortran) I might have had to take it for ME.  [laugh] CE didn't require it...thankfully.  ;D ...and i can't think of a time I would have used it in the last 13 years. Well, at least not anything so complicated I needed a whole sememster of it.

B.Rock

Quote from: Triple J on March 10, 2009, 09:37:13 AM
Must depend on the type of engineer. You're an ME right? If I'd have made it past Numerical Methods (at the time basically advanced Fortran) I might have had to take it for ME.  [laugh] CE didn't require it...thankfully.  ;D ...and i can't think of a time I would have used it in the last 13 years. Well, at least not anything so complicated I needed a whole sememster of it.
I had to take it. Never used it. CE also.
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He Man

Quote from: B.Rock on March 10, 2009, 10:00:21 AM
I had to take it. Never used it. CE also.

In my infant knowledge, i think its because they hire a statistician to do it the real grunt work of calculating the stuff. You just have to understand it.

Triple J

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Quote from: He Man on March 10, 2009, 10:08:23 AM
In my infant knowledge, i think its because they hire a statistician to do it the real grunt work of calculating the stuff. You just have to understand it.

That's not my experience...we just don't use involved statistics. We all do our share of calculations, particularly at the staff and senior staff levels.