Km's on a chain and other silly questions....

[White Lion]

Ha, yeah sure. Oh, another thing: Should i be looking for steel or aluminium? I take it steel lasts longer but is heavier. Any thoughts guys?

[dragonworld.]

The advantage for road use is probably negligable and maybe a bit on the expensive side?? 

But ally can be anodised all sorts of pretty colours. 

[White Lion]

Steel it is then!

[Betty]

Nah, go the combo you were looking at earlier. Gold anodised carrier with the (black) steel teeth ... you will see only a hint of the gold anyway + I don't know how long a gold chain will stay gold.

[loony888]

the gold chain, as long as it's a decent brand, will stay gold for the life of the chain, i think it's a cad plate, and from my experience it hasn't faded. a gold sprocket? hmmm, very, err...........yeah, woggy. i have a mate with a 888 and he has a gold sprocket, not a fan. as dragonworld has said, an alloy sprocket will wear faster than a steel one even with hard anodising, and you wouldn't notice the weight difference on a street bike.
Be aware too, that some cheaper brand chains are cut to length off a huge roll and packaged in a box by the distributor and sent to the shop, the problem with that is you get tight and loose spots a lot earlier in the life of the chain, so less life overall. don't skimp on the chain you buy, lube it often, clean it often (with crc or wd40, not kero or petrol) and it will last a long time.


paul.

[Spider]

one advantage to a gold chain....you can tell from 2 meters away when it's dirty...so you keep it cleaner (if those things p!ss you off, and being a pushy mechanic I expect they do). So you keep your chain cleaner and get better performance. win, win.

[Spider]

you're talking about the Stealth (supersprox) rear aren't you...alloy carrier (in gold!) and steel teeth, best of both worlds! Unfortunately when I looked into it...they only did gold!

[White Lion]

Yeah Spider, i am fairly obsessive with the cleaning. The pushies are immaculate.

I think i still have another 5,000km in the chain, so no rush.

[Spider]

so are mine....

do you use Maxima chain lube? (I'll ask before typing a thousand word essay on it!)....if not...try it on the new gold chain and then the pushys!

[dragonworld.]

Re the gold sproggit and the err "woggy" theme ? Iguess it is a umm "wog" bike, yes??    

[White Lion]

True true, i'm going to source out some pics before making a decision though. The left side of the bike is a little bland 

[Betty]

....you can tell from 2 meters away when it's dirty...

That was the gist of what I was saying:

I don't know how long a gold chain will stay gold.

But I still reckon most of the gold in the spocket would be covered up by the hubby-thinga-mabob on the SSS bikes.

Also note I have no gold on my bike (Jukie has plenty enough for the two of us ... but it's a girl's bike)  

[Betty]

OK Hugh I am taking your thread and running with it. Thank you all for your info and advice, can I ask some more techo questions (I don't even know what all these bits are or what they do).

I don't know if the cush-drive backing out issue is a problem for my little S2R800 ... but is the only way around it to use a quick-change carrier with anti-back-out plates?

Or do other aftermarket sprockets help to prevent the cush-drives from backing out?

[loony888]

the quick change carrier by AFAM has the tabs that stop the cush drive outer from backing out into your swingarm, not sure if the aftermarket sprocket as a whole has it, though i would think it does, could be wrong though. All the SSS bikes are susceptible (thank god for spell check!) to the outer backing out, it's a good design but poorly thought out i reckon, the AFAM and others solution is easy and wouldn't add much cost to the sprocket manufacture i wouldn't think. There's more factors to them failing than just the torque of the engine too, things like riding style, luck and how harsh the cleaning agents you use all contribute to it, my mate has a 94 916 and has the original cush drives in it with no worries, my S4R had one start to back out at 3000 klms, go figure. luckily i spotted it before any damage as the eccentric that would have been chewed up is not cheap.

paul.

[bazz20]

so are mine....

do you use Maxima chain lube? (I'll ask before typing a thousand word essay on it!)....if not...try it on the new gold chain and then the pushys!

sorry spider but thats the worst chain lube ive ever yoused it utter shit it flys every where  except where its meant to be went back too a teflon based belray it stays put and if it stays on my bullets that travel out the barrel at over 3000 feet per second it has no worrys staying on a chain,bazz