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« on: March 25, 2009, 11:47:17 AM »

Anyone tried this device on their monster?
Urbane InTech Valve
http://www.visordown.com/news/article.asp?sp=&v=1&uan=6581

I'm sure we'll have plenty of people who reply "it's snake oil" but I'm wondering if anyone has actually tried it. And since we now know that there are some medicines derived from snake venom I'd say we should revisit our definition of snake oil anyway.

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MCN
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BBC News
Man shows carbon reducing valve



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« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2009, 11:56:52 AM »

If it seems too good to be true, it probably is.  If his claims were true and the technology has been around for 15 years, car manufacturers would have utilized it by now if it were useful.
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« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2009, 12:00:42 PM »

If it seems too good to be true, it probably is.  If his claims were true and the technology has been around for 15 years, car manufacturers would have utilized it by now if it were useful.

Superior technology needs to be adopted, not just invented. There's a big difference in there.

Plus, car manufacturers brought us the Pontiac Aztec.

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« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2009, 12:55:00 PM »

Not sure I buy it...
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« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2009, 01:40:57 PM »

From what I can see this seems to be nothing more than a PCV valve. 
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« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2009, 01:52:13 PM »

It would help in evaluating the product if they had actually described how it works.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2009, 02:13:27 PM »

It would help in evaluating the product if they had actually described how it works.  Roll Eyes

+1.  This product is bullshit. Nowhere can i find how it works. Not even a lay-explanation. New innovative product? Don't hide the ball if you want me to play.
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« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2009, 05:23:42 PM »

It's easy to say this is bullshit, or snake oil, but then why would MCN give it such a glowing report. Lets just hope someone was not payed for the praise.
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« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2009, 05:29:26 PM »

It's easy to say this is bullshit, or snake oil, but then why would MCN give it such a glowing report. Lets just hope someone was not payed for the praise.

How can we believe MCN's glowing report without an explanation of how it works?

I'm a scientist man, I can't do that.  cheeky
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« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2009, 05:42:53 PM »

As am I, and the more and more I look at it, the more it looks EXACTLY like a Vacuum check valve.
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« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2009, 05:43:32 PM »

Yeah, the engineer in me doesn't buy it on advertising alone. Its like those "tornado" inserts for your car's engine. Riiiiiiiiggggggggggghhhhhhhhhttttttttttt.......
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« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2009, 07:37:41 AM »

As am I, and the more and more I look at it, the more it looks EXACTLY like a Vacuum check valve.


So if it IS nothing more than a vacuum check valve, could it have the effect described in the video?
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« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2009, 08:04:22 AM »


So if it IS nothing more than a vacuum check valve, could it have the effect described in the video?

All street legal vehicles come out of the factory with some sort of closed crankcase ventilation system, either a check valve, a fixed orifice, or, like we have on our Ducs, a reid valve system to control the crankcase gasses and deliver them back into the engine to be burnt rather than expel them into the atmosphere.  In other words, manufacturers have been doing this since 1963.
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« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2009, 08:14:30 AM »

I got the impression that he was relieving cylinder resistance, not crankcase resistance which is why I'm confused...
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« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2009, 09:16:28 AM »

I *think* it's a controlled air leak into the intakes, after the throttle bodies.

BUT, there's so much smoke and so many mirrors, it's impossible to know for sure.  Roll Eyes
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