California: Just don't paint it black (or any other dark color in fact)

[Spidey]

Has anyone read the links? I didn't read a sinlge thing about motorcycles. I also read a portion that stated that certain types of windshields would eliminate the paint requirement.

The sky is not falling.

Yup (which I posted earlier).   I went ahead and skimmed the latest draft changes to the regs (cuz ya just can't rely on the interwebz and some random article).  The proposal applies to automobiles, light-duty trucks and medium duty vehicles weighing under 10K lbs.   Here: 

So, after reading the whole .pdf, when they talk about reduction of temps strictly due to the paint they are talking about 1 degree C. Are you kidding me? 1 make the beast with two backsing degree?

Maybe one or both of these people need an email.
sclemieu@arb.ca.gov    Sharon Lemieux,    Manager
mbekken@arb.ca.gov    Marijke Bekken,     Lead Staff

And what corresponding effect does that have on a/c fuel consumption?  1.3%  Make of that what you will in terms of a cost/benefit analysis.  But just throwing out 1 degree F isn't at all instructive.  As far as emailing them, a better solution is to wait until the public comment period opens and then submit something coherent rather than some internet ragefest.  The calendar shows that notice is tentatively scheduled for 4/10.  Edit:  check here if you'd like to leave public comments (in the future).  I didn't realize it, but you have the opportunity to comment on workshops--which is what the pdf was for--as well as rulemaking.  Have at it.   

every time i think i have heard the most stupid thing ever.............

Why is this the stupidest thing ever?  I'm interested to know. 

   No wonder the state is broke.

Huh?

[herm]

Has anyone read the links? I didn't read a sinlge thing about motorcycles. I also read a portion that stated that certain types of windshields would eliminate the paint requirement.

The sky is not falling.

yeah, read the links.........its still make the beast with two backsin stupid, whether about bikes, cars or big wheels.


fkn california

[superjohn]

Spidey, your rationality is going to really bring down someone's hate-buzz 

[Spidey]

Shit, sorry, mang.  Here ya go. . .

FACK CARB!!!!  KILLLZZZ DEM COMMIE FOOKERS!!!!!!  We should pelt their grandparents with cans of foie gras shot out of a straight exhaust on a V-8 running a on a mix of 110 octane, Bambi, and Britney's 18 children.    

[herm]

to answer spidey.....

i doubt that light colored paint is going to change the a/c use (habits) of folks living in places like socal. as mentioned, 1 degree is hardly worth the effort (diff between 100-101 in the shade....?)

the car is still going to be very uncomfortable, regardless of special paint. so folks are going to idle longer until the vehicle is cool.

maybe CA should ban leather seats too?

[ducatiz]

California:  Lex Luthor had the right idea.

[Grampa]

fkn california

home of octamom


we rock

[ducatiz]

home of octamom


we rock

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[DucofWestwood]

I live in LA. This will never happen. There are too many celebrities riding around in blacked-out range rovers to let this happen. If there is one thing people here care about its their cars.

Oh and by the way the governator travels in a fleet of black suburbans. Maybe he could just stop flying his private jet from sacramento to santa monica every weekend and the net effect would be the same.

[woodyracing]

to answer spidey.....

i doubt that light colored paint is going to change the a/c use (habits) of folks living in places like socal. as mentioned, 1 degree is hardly worth the effort (diff between 100-101 in the shade....?)

the car is still going to be very uncomfortable, regardless of special paint. so folks are going to idle longer until the vehicle is cool.

maybe CA should ban leather seats too?

FWIW I believe 1 degree C is about 2 degrees F

[Howie]

to answer spidey.....

i doubt that light colored paint is going to change the a/c use (habits) of folks living in places like socal. as mentioned, 1 degree is hardly worth the effort (diff between 100-101 in the shade....?)

the car is still going to be very uncomfortable, regardless of special paint. so folks are going to idle longer until the vehicle is cool.

maybe CA should ban leather seats too?

Herm, don't give them any ideas.

[DoubleEagle]

Ohio has made dark tinted windshields illegal for many years .

The reason is to help safeguard so that he can see what is going on inside a vehicle he has pulled over. Dolph   

[Roscoe]

his

tinted windows also illegal.

This is false. Only the front driver and passenger windows, along with the windshield, are illegal.  Anything behind that can be as dark as you want.

[erkishhorde]

his This is false. Only the front driver and passenger windows, along with the windshield, are illegal.  Anything behind that can be as dark as you want.

That sounds similar to CA.

The whole argument that they'll use A/C less encourages me to think that this will not apply to motorcycles because most of them don't have A/C. I think a couple of the reclining chairs with wheels have A/C. Not sure though...

Ya know, though... Going on the thought line that the end goal is to reduce A/C use and therefore increase fuel efficiency, wouldn't it solve the problem if A/C just wasn't allowed on cars instead? That's MUCH more reasonable, yes?  You know, kinda like not allowing the sale of youth motorcycles because your kid might eat it.

Oh, also, a flood of lighter color/ more reflective cars on the road will cause significant problems for visibility. Remember how they had to polish the Disney Concert hall because it was blinding motorists? Yeah, kinda like that.

[Holden]

Let's see more natural finish cars (à la DeLorean). Swirls? Use steel wool.