What not to do at Turn 2 Eastern Creek.

[goldFiSh]

Yeah he had a really funny style, he always lifted himself off the bike each time on exit.
Strange way to shift your weight from side to side.

from what I understand, that's a recipe for instability.

how do you say it dock, knee to knee and slide, not lift (see I have been studying up!)

[Dockstrada]

Oh and does someone know this guy, nice set on the Ozmonster Flickr page.

Yeh I know him ,Its this guys Twin 

[Dockstrada]

is it jay leno on a diet  no ive seen the bike some where before just cant make out the leathers , looking good vince hoping your still enjoying that awesome machine 

Yeh Loving it bazz 

[Dockstrada]

from what I understand, that's a recipe for instability.

how do you say it dock, knee to knee and slide, not lift (see I have been studying up!)

I have been letting to many secrets out ,Better watch out may end up being the back runner.

[Dockstrada]

Since i have been working at the track,I have been on recovery duty as in carnage recovery.On recovery of a crashed  we do a questionair to evaluate what happened.

Most of the times the crashee has not done any school days or have done less than 5 track days, and the crash was due to rider input .every other time it has been because of stupidity .
The Track is a relay safe place to enjoy your machine,it is only when you hooligans trying to be the next Moto GP wanna be in the levels way to fast for rider ability and bike preparation.

My suggestion for first timers is if you can ride your bike through any twisties and have absolutely no doubt of your ability and are confident with leaning into a corner and holding a line, Yellow group is for you.If you are realistic and still have that on edge feeling when cornering and leaning, white group is for you . Let it be known that it is your first time Yellow or White you will have a fore better day knowing that there will be no expectations from you and mostly others egging you on.

 

[loony888]

if you're going to find your limits the track is the best place to do it. stupidity is only a point of view, if someone is wringing it's neck through a school zone at 3.00pm? that's stupidity, letting loose at the track, regardless of how much ability you have or whether you're a victim of your own red mist is cool, it's the safest place to make the beast with two backs up. Don't be rubbishing guys and girls who want to be the next moto GP star, we all started somewhere, maybe their ego or ignorance won't let them admit what little experience they really have, but the track marshalls can see it easily and it's not hard to move them to another group. I remember my very first track day, i thought i knew it all and my bike was the fastest thing out there!! didn't take me long to come crashing back to earth, luckily, not literally, a marshall had a chat with me, moved me to a more appropriate group and i got some training before i came for a 2nd go. we ("you hooligans") are finding our limits and the limits of our poorly prepared bikes in the relative safety of a racetrack, owning a flash S4RS or desmosedici (who wants to be the moto gp star???) might be good for posing but i doubt you will ever come close to the limits of the bikes for fear of crashing. your limits i see you have found by the attached photos. Just cause you work at the track doesn't mean you rule it, save the attitude.


paul.

[Big T]

My suggestion for first timers is if you can ride your bike through any twisties and have absolutely no doubt of your ability and are confident with leaning into a corner and holding a line, Yellow group is for you.

Thanks you all for the words of wisdom. Doing my first track day on May 9th and speaking to "other" track riders they concure with your thoughts Dock. Hence I'm in the Yellow group.

Looking forward to a fun day where I can push the S4RT and me a little more knowing that there are no  , Volvo drivers, pot holes, dogs, etc, etc round the next corner....

And nope I'm not looking to be the next Moto GP champ.......

[Jukie]

Trev you are always my BIG CHAMP

[Big T]

Jukie your usual "smooth" treat will be available Saturday.....   

[Jukie]

YES YES YES CANT WAIT HMMMMM

[bazz20]

if you're going to find your limits the track is the best place to do it. stupidity is only a point of view, if someone is wringing it's neck through a school zone at 3.00pm? that's stupidity, letting loose at the track, regardless of how much ability you have or whether you're a victim of your own red mist is cool, it's the safest place to make the beast with two backs up. Don't be rubbishing guys and girls who want to be the next moto GP star, we all started somewhere, maybe their ego or ignorance won't let them admit what little experience they really have, but the track marshalls can see it easily and it's not hard to move them to another group. I remember my very first track day, i thought i knew it all and my bike was the fastest thing out there!! didn't take me long to come crashing back to earth, luckily, not literally, a marshall had a chat with me, moved me to a more appropriate group and i got some training before i came for a 2nd go. we ("you hooligans") are finding our limits and the limits of our poorly prepared bikes in the relative safety of a racetrack, owning a flash S4RS or desmosedici (who wants to be the moto gp star???) might be good for posing but i doubt you will ever come close to the limits of the bikes for fear of crashing. your limits i see you have found by the attached photos. Just cause you work at the track doesn't mean you rule it, save the attitude.


paul.

i think it should be compulsory that that people getting there bike license should do a track school or program , i thought i could ride unto i went and started doing track days i soon learnt just how far you can push a bike and most of all how easy it is too lose it , never hurt my self on a track but have had a couple of painfull spills on the road cheers bazz

[Dockstrada]

if you're going to find your limits the track is the best place to do it. stupidity is only a point of view, if someone is wringing it's neck through a school zone at 3.00pm? that's stupidity, letting loose at the track, regardless of how much ability you have or whether you're a victim of your own red mist is cool, it's the safest place to make the beast with two backs up. Don't be rubbishing guys and girls who want to be the next moto GP star, we all started somewhere, maybe their ego or ignorance won't let them admit what little experience they really have, but the track marshalls can see it easily and it's not hard to move them to another group. I remember my very first track day, i thought i knew it all and my bike was the fastest thing out there!! didn't take me long to come crashing back to earth, luckily, not literally, a marshall had a chat with me, moved me to a more appropriate group and i got some training before i came for a 2nd go. we ("you hooligans") are finding our limits and the limits of our poorly prepared bikes in the relative safety of a racetrack, owning a flash S4RS or desmosedici (who wants to be the moto gp star???) might be good for posing but i doubt you will ever come close to the limits of the bikes for fear of crashing. your limits i see you have found by the attached photos. Just cause you work at the track doesn't mean you rule it, save the attitude.



paul.

letting loose at the track, regardless of how much ability you have or whether you're a victim of your own red mist is cool, it's the safest place to make the beast with two backs up

Loony you seem to have taken my point of view personally    what about the poor victims you will take with you on your demise I regret to say but its words like that relay make a statement to you view of your fellow mans safety

Some go out to enjoy their machines with safety in mind regardless of the cost of it  ,these are the people i want to ride with, not some testosterone filled try hard with no experience trying impress his mates or his women

I do value your opinion Loony, but in this case i am a little disappointed 

[mattyvas]

My observation of the morning out there really shows you that it's not what you ride but how you ride it.
There was a VTR 250 out there with cheese cutter tyres on that was not only keeping up with but
riding around many litre bikes through turn 2-3-4.
It took 4 laps or more for the group to out pace the little machine, most likely because the rear rubber
had had enough.

[Spider]

I love stories like this Matty...

I've heard there are old blokes out there who troll the race circuit, get a shitter bike and then school all the young'uns by riding the wheels off of them.

[brimo]

I love stories like this Matty...

I've heard there are old blokes out there who troll the race circuit, get a shitter bike and then school all the young'uns by riding the wheels off of them.

In the olden days my brother and I ( mounted on our trusty XL 250s) used to take great delight in carving up the boy racers on the Kew Boulevard.
 (of course the old kwaka 9s, cb 750s etc. that we were up against weren't exactly great handlers either. We just had the big advantage of when our frames flexed in the middle, we had more ground clearance to the pegs.