race tires danger for new rideR?

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thank you very much everyone except crankymonster

[DrDesmo]

thank you very much everyone except crankymonster

    [moto]

Adam

[Desmo Demon]

There are many myths that constantly float around the 'net as fact. Here's some interesting reading material on warming up tires and running "race" rubber on the street...

http://www.sportrider.com/ride/RSS/146_0810_how_to_warm_up_new_tires/index.html

If you get rid of those tires and they have decent tread, I'll be more than happy to take them off of your hands. I have no problems at all with running track tires on the street. I've burned through several Pirelli Supercorsa Pro SC2 tires without any issues.

[CairnsDuc]

Also, don't forget when you get your new tyres fitted, they will have release compound on them from the molding process, so they will be slippery until you done some miles (50 to 100) When I put new tyres on a bike I stress to every customer many times to take it easy for the first 100 to 200 Klm's until the compound has been worn off.

[junior varsity]

Yes, take it easy to get the goo off. I've been told that each time I picked up new tires, and Alain at Corse Motorsports in Nashville was always keen on reminding you that even after you got the bike home from the shop, the next ride you'd need to remind yourself, because you likely hadn't gotten it all off yet.

[Scottish]

Bring the bike back to the shop and politely ask for your money back, it's obvious you don't need to be riding a motorcycle.

Ignore this guy /\ /\ /\. I'm familar with him from the CDC he's a complete douche'-nozzle. 

[Speeddog]

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Let's not go there, OK?

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[Jarvicious]

Bring the bike back to the shop and politely ask for your money back, it's obvious you don't need to be riding a motorcycle.

More like CRANKYmonster.  Sorry, no decent input as I've only run a couple of pairs of Diablos, but I dig them so much luck on the street tires. 

[redial]

thanks for the tip about the goo. i will definitely keep in mind.


to update, im getting more confident on the dragons, they arent so bad in the dry. I rode to work this morning in the rain, and while it wasnt exactly pleasant around turns (probably just me freaking out more than anything the bike did) it seemed to be alright taking it easy.


Another question: i went to my duc shop, where on the wall it said "recession buster, buy tires get them mounted for $1) which had me thinking moto mounting is even cheaper, or on par with car tires.

i asked how much if i brought tires from home, they quoted me $90 for both!! just to mount~!!! i waited for the guy to start laughing but he did not. is this unreasonable? or are moto tires harder to mount than car tires. Im inclined to just buy a moto tire mounting stand as they are like $100 and would pay for itself if i managed to get rubber on my wheels even one time.

thoughts?

[junior varsity]

They are unreasonably high to mount if you bring in your own to discourage you from not buying them there. Think of it as "helping out the local guys" (I know its a bummer).

For rain riding, your confidence will be higher if you make a game of being as smooth as possible on gas and brakes (esp. around turns). The only way to lose traction is for something to abruptly change, jerking the throttle open or closed which would upset the suspension, etc.

[Porsche Monkey]

If you have a Cyclegear nearby you can take the wheels off and they will mount em for 60.

[DLSGAP]

what little street riding I do, I take it easy til i get to whatever fun road i'm heading to then i let her loose...
I grew up with roads around me that many racers use for practice when its not busy. Since they are technically an OEM tire you should be ok, but something to consider with race tires is that they're only designed to come up to temp and then cool pff so many times. this is called a heat cycle. the more heat cycles a tire has on it, no matter how much tread is left, they'll get slippery. They just aren't designed to withstand the heat cycling that street tires are.

I've run the Dragon SuperCorsas on my ZX10 and overall i was happy with them. But I think i'll stick with the Pilot Power 2ct for a while longer. until i decide to fork over the dough for some Power Ones

[minnesotamonster]

Is the $90 with the wheels on the bike? If you can take off the wheels yourself and bring them in it should be much cheaper. I just did this at my local duc shop and they charged me $25 a tire. So $50 for the set.

[the_Journeyman]

That's about the norm.  I always pull my wheels & take them in.  $25-$35 at the local shops ~

JM

[corndog67]

Race tires.  I know guys that always put race compounds on even though they never go to the track.  It's so they can say they have race compound.   I've ridden with both, not much difference at slow speeds, big difference when they warm up.   And I go through street tires at the rate of 3000 or so for a rear, 5000 for a front, race compound maybe 1500 to 2000 rear, 3500 to 4000 front.   I've had the street compound at Willow, the only thing slowing down that CBR was ME.  It wasn't the shock.  It wasn't the tires.  It wasn't the bike, it was ME!!!.   I didn't need no skinkin' race tires. 

And be manly.   Bust your own tires on and off.  I've got about 5 tire irons, I don't HARDLY EVER scratch my rims anymore, and it's a piece of cake after 30 years of practice.    Line up that line with the valve stem, and, personal opinion here, balance is close enough.  I don't run 160 mph any more, and nothing shakes at 120, so it's all good. 

And the goo on the tires, I've got a road near my house, some 100 mph sweepers, nothing to tight, I just go in at about 100, start leaning, I don't throw it in, I just lean a little more and more, the speeds will keep it from suddenly losing the front, and you can feel that stuff come off the tires.   Seriously, you feel it wiggle a bit, and the wiggle gradually goes away, more lean, more lean, and pretty soon, all done. 

Probably going to be some different opinions on this one, but that's what I've been doing forever.