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Fast throttle cam. Get one, just go and get it!
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Privateer
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Re: Fast throttle cam. Get one, just go and get it!
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April 11, 2009, 01:53:42 PM »
it looks like the cam is smaller radius. Motorcycle Consumer News had this product on their back page in Feb
http://g2ergo.com/shop/catalog/G2-Tamer-Throttle-Tube-for-Ducati-267.html
the shape of the cam is ramped so the low throttle positions are less... snatchy? i guess.. less on/off.. abrupt.. so they say, and so the article in MCN said (on a ST1300).
I was considering it, but not sure how much benefit I'd see on a 620.
from the magazine
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Most if not all OEM throttle tubes have a constant radius spool section. By reducing the diameter of the cam at initial throttle openings, the ratio of grip rotation to the degree of throttle opening is increased. This allows for much more sensitive throttle application As the rider continues to twist the gas, the cam diameter increases and still achieves full opening with the same arc of grip rotation as the stock throttle.
what do you(collective you) think?
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I think i worry that this might cause me problems if I also put in a light flywheel... Maybe not, but it seems like there'd be less manners at low speeds if both were on ze bike.
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Re: Fast throttle cam. Get one, just go and get it!
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Quote from: Privateer on April 11, 2009, 01:53:42 PM
what do you(collective you) think?
I was considering one, but I too regularly inadvertently launch the front wheel from a start. I see the fast throttle cam as a mechanism for doing that faster/more often. Probably not a good idea.
This afternoon I removed the OEM throttle cam, drilled a few holes in it and polished it up. It looks pretty cool.
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Ahem. Pictures.
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Quote from: ato memphis on April 11, 2009, 02:03:25 PM
I think i worry that this might cause me problems if I also put in a light flywheel... Maybe not, but it seems like there'd be less manners at low speeds if both were on ze bike.
<--- Lightened clutch & flywheel + 944 hi comp kit + lowered gearing
No problems.
Like I said, it takes a day to get used to it, but after that you're fine. And I live in a metro area, so my learning curve both was, and had to be, pretty quick
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April 11, 2009, 03:04:24 PM »
wait, did you do the fast throttle cam too?
I'm about to lighten the ol' clutch and flywheel up, so my concern is lots of change at once throwin' my technique to heck.
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Quote from: pompetta on April 11, 2009, 02:26:58 PM
I was considering one, but I too regularly inadvertently launch the front wheel from a start. I see the fast throttle cam as a mechanism for doing that faster/more often. Probably not a good idea.
This afternoon I removed the OEM throttle cam, drilled a few holes in it and polished it up. It looks pretty cool.
my understanding is the G2 ergonomics throttle is designed to resolve that throttle problem.
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Quote from: Privateer on April 11, 2009, 01:53:42 PM
I was considering it, but not sure how much benefit I'd see on a 620.
You and I, with smaller engines, can benefit from quicker action - not much danger of overdoing it for us. We do not need the initial slower action of the G2 or Evoluzione systems.
I understand the worries for S4R riders, but I think it's easy to get used to a quicker action.
My own reason to get it was that I don't have to move my arm/wrist as much = better control. It was, A: start with a high elbow or B: end up with a too low wrist angle.
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how hard was the install? do you need to re-set anything? I too have the 800
Thanks.
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I have an s4r and was thinking of getting one of these as the stock cam takes soooooo far to get to WOT. I will rely on my fat ass to keep the front down as always.
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Quote from: muskrat on April 11, 2009, 04:42:12 PM
how hard was the install? do you need to re-set anything? I too have the 800
Thanks.
Ask Pompetta to walk you through the steps
Mine was put on by my curious dealer for free, since they already worked on the bike.
I think it's as easy as it looks - nut off - remove OEM cam - put on Electraeon cam with the throttle wire in place - put nut back on - adjust wire.
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Quote from: stopintime on April 09, 2009, 04:00:43 PM
Yeah - it's quite a lot easier to get it going with this installed. Along with my clip on mod I rerouted the throttle wire, almost no resistance AND the quick cam - I feel like I have a lightened fly wheel.
I experienced the opposite from you with the wrist issue, but that might be because of the rerouting result I got.
Im about to switch to the speedymoto tall boys and im picking this up too. how did you route the throttle wire?
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Quote from: xcaptainxbloodx on April 11, 2009, 10:58:46 PM
Im about to switch to the speedymoto tall boys and im picking this up too. how did you route the throttle wire?
The throttle assembly was rotated. Throttle wire exit now sits on top of the bar, it used to be underneath. Check out which way you want it BEFORE you drill the nob hole in the bar. My wire goes through the SpeedyMoto top triple - if you have the stock triple you need to decide if you go in front or behind the triple.
More importantly, for me anyway, was to reroute from behind/inside the large wire bundle that goes along side/under the tank. The throttle wire made a detour there, which proved to obstruct it's movement quite a lot. The second picture shows the beginning of where the wire now routes on the outside of the bundle.
Ask again if I'm being unclear
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Quote from: stopintime on April 12, 2009, 02:31:35 AM
The throttle assembly was rotated. Throttle wire exit now sits on top of the bar, it used to be underneath.
so your throttle assembly is basically upside down now? and where its routed under the tank is now separated from the wiring harness to give it a more direct rout?
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Quote from: xcaptainxbloodx on April 12, 2009, 02:42:55 AM
so your throttle assembly is basically upside down now? and where its routed under the tank is now separated from the wiring harness to give it a more direct rout?
Yes and yes
I'm not sure if you must/need to do the throttle assembly "upside down" with the Tall Boys.
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