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« on: April 16, 2009, 06:02:43 AM »

Ok, so I've been wanting to get some clutch bling lately, and I'm glad I looked before I bought.

My bike appears to have a different clutch setup than most dry clutches.  I don't know if this is because of it's age or something the previous owner did.

It's a 99 M750.  I know it has a dry clutch.  However, the clutch cover is one piece with the motor cover.  It covers the entire clutch, not just the top, as well as the motor.  It's one piece all the way from the back of the clutch to the oil window thing.

Is there any way I can get my clutch exposed without cutting up my stock pieces?
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« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2009, 06:28:18 AM »

From your description it sounds like you have a wet clutch to me.  Unless your 750 was moddified, it came stock with a wet clutch.





So unfortunately, no blingy for you  Tongue
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« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2009, 06:37:41 AM »

Well I was told it's a dry clutch.  Could a dry clutch be used in a we clutch housing?

How can I find out for sure which it is?  preferably withut taking the bike apart
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« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2009, 06:45:29 AM »

It takes money and a lot of modding to make a wet clutch bike into a dry clutch.

If that clutch side engine cover and all is stock, I'd be absolutely amazed if it was modified to a dry clutch.

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« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2009, 06:51:57 AM »

setup than most dry clutches.  I don't know if this is because of it's age or something the previous owner did.
It's a 99 M750.  I know it has a dry clutch.  However, the clutch cover is one piece with the motor cover.  It covers the entire clutch, not just the top, as well as the motor.  It's one piece all the way from the back of the clutch to the oil window thing.

Is there any way I can get my clutch exposed without cutting up my stock pieces?
Based on that description, it's the stock wet clutch. 

An no, there is no way to expose the clutch like a dry clutch w/o actually converting it to a dry clutch.... Well you *could* but all your oil would drain out and you'd be very sorry if you did.  The conversion process is not cheap nor easy for the lay person to do.

Well I was told it's a dry clutch.  Could a dry clutch be used in a we clutch housing?
You were most likely misinformed.  While there might be some common parts between the wet and dry clutch assembly - they are not 100% identical assemblies and you can't just install a druy clutch in a wet clutch bike and have it work
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« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2009, 07:09:42 AM »

It is definitely a wet clutch...sorry bud.
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« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2009, 07:35:51 AM »

The misleading part is not your fault.

People here about the 748 and 749's - those have dry clutches. (They are also super bikes).
If have a 750, one might think it also has a dry clutch, but it does not - its a Monster, rather than a superbike.

Yours might even have the cool side case that has a big angle to it, rather than being perfectly round. Like on the Monster 600's. This is a pretty bad ass example:
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« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2009, 07:45:47 AM »

here you go my friend, some wet clutch bling. hope you brought your wallet

http://www.rapidmotoparts.com/ducati-magnesium-clutch-case-cover-for-wet-clutch.html

edit: oops it looks like that item is for 2002+, you may be able to find a similar magnesium cover for your year with some searching, im not sure
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« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2009, 07:48:43 AM »

MAGNESIUM! delicious.

perhaps speedymoto will make a billet side cover for you, they are making billet case covers for dry clutch models. can't be that difficult to make a wet clutch model. expect that to be between $550-700. Quite spendy.
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« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2009, 07:57:51 AM »

Well, I'm doing this on the cheap, since I have a baby on the way.

Also, magnesium is not exactly the bling I was looking for.  I wanted to go with a black pressure plate, black spring caps, and a black open cover.

I don't have that cool angled cover, just the plain round one.

They guy I bought it from claimed to have taken the whole motor apart and rebuilt it, so maybe he did convert it to a dry clutch.  He even told me about dry clutches and why this was different than a wet clutch.  So, either he was full of sh*t, or he actually converted it.  Isn't there some way to tell?
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« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2009, 08:04:53 AM »


Isn't there some way to tell?

Sounds like he was full of shit since you still have your original cover. I'm pretty sure you'd need a dry clutch type of side case to run a dry clutch. I could be wrong though...I've never dug into a wet clutch motor.  Huh? The couple conversions I've seen look like typical dry clutch bikes...it's obvious.

But...take your clutch cover off. If all the oil runs out then you have a wet clutch.  Grin
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« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2009, 08:08:16 AM »

Well, I'm doing this on the cheap, since I have a baby on the way.

Also, magnesium is not exactly the bling I was looking for.  I wanted to go with a black pressure plate, black spring caps, and a black open cover.

I don't have that cool angled cover, just the plain round one.

They guy I bought it from claimed to have taken the whole motor apart and rebuilt it, so maybe he did convert it to a dry clutch.  He even told me about dry clutches and why this was different than a wet clutch.  So, either he was full of sh*t, or he actually converted it.  Isn't there some way to tell?

Full of shit.  You can take the cover off and let the oil run out if you need that kind of proof, but there is nothing wrong with wet clutches.  They work great and are less maintenance.  The dry ones do look and sound cool though.
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« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2009, 09:10:31 AM »

Well, I'm doing this on the cheap, since I have a baby on the way.

Also, magnesium is not exactly the bling I was looking for.  I wanted to go with a black pressure plate, black spring caps, and a black open cover.

I don't have that cool angled cover, just the plain round one.

They guy I bought it from claimed to have taken the whole motor apart and rebuilt it, so maybe he did convert it to a dry clutch.  He even told me about dry clutches and why this was different than a wet clutch.  So, either he was full of sh*t, or he actually converted it.  Isn't there some way to tell?

Well... all the parts you list, if you go billet are going to total in near $500 anyway.

That angled cover is from an even older generation of monsters than your 750.

Well, an engine rebuild and a dry clutch swap aren't the same thing.  And if he did manage to install dry clutch parts in it.. they are no longer dry.  Your case/clutch cover has passages in it that allow the oil to circulate to the clutch - such is the construction of that piece, that you cannot seal the oil from the clutch.  It bolts over the clutch enclosure - to remove it you just undo the bolts around it's perimeter and yank.

The dry clutch side case has seals that sit behind the clutch basket and hub to seal in the oil.  To remove this case cover, you need to remove the whole clutch assembly then the perimeter bolts as te case cannot go past the clutch...

So even *if* he somehow used some dry clutch parts... they long since stopped being dry like you would see on a 900cc or larger Monster.  Unless the per previous owner did some whacky, here to fore, unseen modifications inside that case - you have a wet clutch bike.

You may wish to call the previous owner, and have him/her elaborate for you. 
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« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2009, 09:17:34 AM »

well thanks for all the info

i'll try and find his card and call him.  he never did give me a second key like he said he would anyway.
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« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2009, 09:45:12 AM »

Also, magnesium is not exactly the bling I was looking for.

make no mistake about it, magnesium parts are badfckinass.

please post a pic and we will be able to tell you for SURE if your clutch is wet or dry

but the consensus is that to convert it, you must spend much more money than it would cost to simply trade up to a dry model.
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